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03-11-2013 10:13 PM
RedRiderr13 you could concider a one off super charged focus, thats different..
01-27-2013 05:33 PM
VEGAS I spent the first 8 years of my life running from cops on bikes/dirtbikes/rice rockets...

in a straight line a 750cc bike will murder any NA focus..
on a turn a 1000cc bike will murder a focus in a turn to a degree....
depending on setups of both..
No cop ever caught me, even on my older Honda 1982 CB750 in the early 90s
why? not speed.. it was the agility.. traffic / turns

it will always come down to the driver and rider in the long run.

My CB1000 1989 was a beast, the nickname was "The Big One" no car ever kept up unless they were larger V8 , or a Grand National V6 turbo...

with today's bikes they have even more HP there is no car worth less then 50 grand car going to beat a Suzuki Hayabusa GSX1300R with the right rider.. we are talking stock.. 194 mph with 162.6 bhp
with near no weight to hold it back at like 550 lb unlike a focus, with 40 more HP then a focus.. 9.86 seconds @ 146 mph


So give me ANY 900cc Rice Rocket and any 4 banger production car under 25 grand and I would toast it on a track with the bike..

Sticky tires and knee pads required :D

to prove my point..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYpOFimB7ZA
01-25-2013 07:14 PM
toilet2000 Turbo lag you're talking about? If it is, just put in a smaller turbo, or double turbo setup (one after the other).

If you want powerband, swap it for a diesel engine ;) jk
01-23-2013 10:08 AM
prextacious Believe what you want, but in my 8 years of racing and instructing, motorcycles are SLOW around a track.

Regardless, an N/A Focus with ~200 whp would be an absolute riot to drive. Having driven 1000+hp cars, nothing will ever compare to the powerband of a proper N/A setup. Boost onset and keeping the boost up requires lots of computer tricks and gratuitous use of left foot braking. For reference, going from 75whp (n/a) to 200whp (turbo) in my Miata netted me less than 2 seconds on a 1:3x course. Corner exits were a nightmare because of the power oversteer, full boost came on as the next braking zone was coming up, and overall made the car slower in the turns, but the car ate up straights like crazy.
01-23-2013 05:17 AM
wickedgreyzx3 Lies
01-22-2013 11:05 PM
prextacious For what it's worth, 9/10 times I've raced a motorcycle in any of my cars, I've easily beaten them. The other 1/10, they gave me a run for my money. For the most part, a bike can't corner or brake as hard as a car. I drove a miata, 4 dr Integra gsr, and an is300 with only suspension/brake/tire mods against 600-1400cc motorcycles and have come out on top everytime 20+ races) and barely got eeked out by a katana 750 who REALLY wanted to be in front and was super reckless about it. Straight line races ... Well that's what the Busa is for ;-)
01-22-2013 06:17 PM
wickedgreyzx3 I'm just being a troll.

I drive a mildly modded zx3 that I sunk a lot of time and money in, but my true passion is 2 wheels
01-22-2013 06:12 PM
wickedgreyzx3
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Originally Posted by Urbanspacedude91 View Post
Third grade sensitivity!? Thats cute . If you dont like it then go to a different forum of your preference. Being an ass on a four cylinder based forum is only making you look like an ass. But feel free to your own opinion.
I drive a focus
01-22-2013 06:12 PM
RonMaiden
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Yeahhhhhh and how much money did that cost to make it go that fast?
Any car in the single digits cost alot to make go fast.

On the bike thing,yeah it's the best bang for your buck but to make it go that quick does take some talent since I see alot of people that can't run their bikes that low but it's pretty cool still but you're comparing an apple to an orange.
To run 99% of street cars into the 9s would take alot of money anyway so your thinking can apply to anything slower. Why buy a Viper when you can have a bike?

I'm just not a bike person since on the street I don't trust other driver's enough to feel safe and just never been a 2 wheel guy but to each his own.
01-22-2013 05:55 PM
Urbanspacedude91
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Originally Posted by RonMaiden View Post
That's why there's different classes and at the time when sport compacts were taking off pre Fast&the Furious era it was a big deal to whoop a V8 with a lowly 4 banger plus on the street it made me a bit of money back in the day especially when my car was AWD since it ran the same on the street as it did on the track no need to change tires or take out my seats and such.

The only reason I throw a 1/4 mile time out there is you can compare it to others across the country as opposed to individual tracks where you can only judge other cars on the same track.
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