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01-26-2013 05:05 PM
JMD787 Sorry to hear about your bad luck. I think the block heaters on this car don't have the best reliability. I had my original one replaced at 4 months and the second one is getting worse and worse at heating up the car. Will make sure to have it replaced again before my warranty expires.

I planned on keeping this car 7-8 years but with all the problems I've had, I can't wait to get rid of it. Block heater, transmission, MFT, squeaks & rattles, paint chips from mis-aligned body panels. I've never had a new car that required this much attention.

As for the oil, there isn't too much of a difference between 0W-20 and 5W-20 so if the dealer is being a prick about it I wouldn't let it bother you.
01-26-2013 09:48 AM
flyboyike During my last oil change, the young technician who, being in Florida, had never seen a block heater gave mine quite a look. He really wasn't sure what a wire that looks a lot like a house AC wire was doing in a car. I pointed to my Minnesota license plate, which caused a light to go off in his head. "Oh," he said
"that's the block heater, ain't it?"
01-25-2013 12:56 PM
Roadworthy Yeah. The job only takes about an hour. If the dealership had it in stock (no one apparently does) they would have been able to complete it that day. The dealership that took three days had to order the part, got it late on the second day and then didn't have time :S He mentioned that the new vehical, PDI guy was the one that installed all of the block heaters (surprised a regular tech didn't do it....).

I haven't really tested mine again but maybe I'll doublecheck. I know when mine was working and it was only about -12 to -15, 8 hours being plugged in virtually had the coolant at temp on startup! lol
01-25-2013 12:52 PM
CDNFocusFan
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I feel your pain. I've gone through replacing the block heater not once, but twice already :S

And yes, first time the dealership didn't have it so I had to drive it across town the next day to drop it off. Second time, different dealership, I talked to the parts department in the morning to confirm they might have one and nope. Had to leave it over night for the next 3, yes 3 days for them to complete it.

Otherwise car is running great :P
Wow twice eh? That's a pain for sure! I'm hoping it's a one time thing.

I can't drive to a different dealership, (the closest other one is 2 hours away) so I'm still just waiting. Luckily the temperature is supposed to increase over the weekend. I'm still waiting to hear from the dealer if they've even received it.

3 days to replace a block heater!? Is it a really difficult install on this car? I would definitely need a loaner if it took that long. I've been getting by bumming rides and using my company truck for the past few days with it not starting in -40. I can't keep that up for another week though.

Otherwise I have few complaints with my car, just odd squeaks and rattles that I will get fixed when it's not so cold, and my paint chipping from the tail light, again waiting till it's not -40 and covered in ice. I'm happy with my car just upset that this happened.
01-24-2013 07:11 PM
Roadworthy I feel your pain. I've gone through replacing the block heater not once, but twice already :S

And yes, first time the dealership didn't have it so I had to drive it across town the next day to drop it off. Second time, different dealership, I talked to the parts department in the morning to confirm they might have one and nope. Had to leave it over night for the next 3, yes 3 days for them to complete it.

Otherwise car is running great :P
01-22-2013 05:21 PM
CDNFocusFan
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Originally Posted by Deftmetal View Post
I was working on a house and one of the neighbours couldn't get his new f150 to start so be called the dealer and they sent out two mechanics to get it started and take it to get repaired if needed. Demand they send someone to help get it started if you want or ask for a loaner until its fixed. Besides that I don't know if you can do anything
I didn't think of a loaner, it would be nice to not have to put my car through those brutal cold starts. My main worry is that I tried starting my car in this terrible weather 20-30 times, I guess I just figured the block heater would or was working. I don't want to have damaged my car.

To be fair the dealership was extremely nice, and kept the car indoors for me the whole day, and made sure it was warm when I left. But once I get it home tonight it's back to the same ball game.

I am a bit peeved about the hours I've missed at work though and bumming rides, it's money out of my pocket.
01-22-2013 05:17 PM
Deftmetal
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Originally Posted by CDNFocusFan View Post
Well here's my result. Apparently my block heater doesn't work and hasn't for awhile if at all. Also my squeaking was a result of a lack of grease in a strut bushing. The explanation wasn't clear.

The local Ford dealer won't get a block heater in until Friday at the earliest, at which point the cold snap is expected to lift.

To be honest with you guys I'm pissed. I've missed quite a few hours of work because my car wouldn't start due to the cold. Today alone I was 2 hours late. Had my block heater been working my car would have started and I wouldn't have had to deal with all this. The car isn't even 9 months old, has 7100km.

Should I be calling ford to complain about all this? It's supposed to be -39 again tonight and I doubt my car will start in the morning.

I was working on a house and one of the neighbours couldn't get his new f150 to start so be called the dealer and they sent out two mechanics to get it started and take it to get repaired if needed. Demand they send someone to help get it started if you want or ask for a loaner until its fixed. Besides that I don't know if you can do anything
01-22-2013 05:04 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by CDNFocusFan View Post
Well here's my result. Apparently my block heater doesn't work and hasn't for awhile if at all. Also my squeaking was a result of a lack of grease in a strut bushing. The explanation wasn't clear.

To be honest with you guys I'm pissed.

Should I be calling ford to complain about all this? It's supposed to be -39 again tonight and I doubt my car will start in the morning.
Sorry about your luck - I don't think complaining will really solve anything, I'm willing to bet that your car won't start tomorrow either. As for the squeaks, I wonder if I should be greasing my strut bearing(s)?
01-22-2013 04:52 PM
CDNFocusFan Well here's my result. Apparently my block heater doesn't work and hasn't for awhile if at all. Also my squeaking was a result of a lack of grease in a strut bushing. The explanation wasn't clear.

The local Ford dealer won't get a block heater in until Friday at the earliest, at which point the cold snap is expected to lift.

To be honest with you guys I'm pissed. I've missed quite a few hours of work because my car wouldn't start due to the cold. Today alone I was 2 hours late. Had my block heater been working my car would have started and I wouldn't have had to deal with all this. The car isn't even 9 months old, has 7100km.

Should I be calling ford to complain about all this? It's supposed to be -39 again tonight and I doubt my car will start in the morning.
01-22-2013 03:05 PM
CDNFocusFan
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
Well, looks like the Motorcraft oil is getting really thick at those temperatures. Worst yet, 0W-20 will only buy you a few degrees, but not much.

https://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubrican...0Synthetic.pdf

http://www.uslube.com/SPEC%20SHEETS/...Eng%20Oils.pdf
Thanks for looking that up! I was googling with nothing coming up useful. I searched for low temperature additives but nothing looks promising. Still no news from the dealer. I hope they at least managed to get my trunk to stay shut.

I'm not too technical with that stuff, so pour point is the point at which the oil is next to useless? It's around -35c ~ - 39c when I try to start it which is damn close to pour point but not right at it. I'm guessing that I'm losing a lot of protection at those temps and it's not good for the engine. Does it being within spec make a difference?
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