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01-29-2013 10:32 AM
murrayjay57 See this dude knows whats up.

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01-29-2013 07:35 AM
Donnyd21 I have rebuilt one SPI already due to dropped vlv seat in #4 and am woring on my 2nd one now (different car), these engines are cake to work on, very simple, I had the head off and pistons completly out in under 2 hours using air tools, one of the eaisest motors to work on next to the Chevy aveo, I have changed out at least 10 different head gaskets on 10 different cars over the last 12 years. I would do this again in a heartbeat if I had to.
01-28-2013 04:16 PM
murrayjay57 I love my spi too and it is very reliable also with me being cert. In engine mech. And only being 18 It is the most easy engine iv worked on so far.

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01-28-2013 03:11 PM
mikebontoft True, I never had any engine trouble other than a dropped seat. No, it's not the easiest to work on but not the hardest.

I got about 2.5 years out of mine. (and about 9-10k miles) Not exactly reliable to me considering the other cars I could have bought for the same money (a zx3 for example).

yes, it left me stranded on the side of the road and yes it had amazing mileage

I do however love the car itself quite a bit but it's been dead longer than driving under my ownership.

Still... it will only have a single cam. Just a lot more lobes. lol
01-28-2013 01:58 PM
crazy_urn Yes, the SPI is a flawed motor. Yes, I am pissed off at ford for their complete disregard for the serious problem the SPI has.

But just because there is a serious design flaw in a motor does not make it a completely worthless piece of garbage. Apart from the one problem, they are very reliable, easy to work on, and very fuel efficient motors. (the main reasons I have not sold mine)

Will my SPI eventually die and leave me stranded on the side of the road? probably. Does that diminish the ten years of flawless service my little SPI has given me? no.

Every car will eventually have a catastrophic failure. The question is, when does that happen, and how reliable is it up to that point. So far my little SPI has given me 116k over ten years with nothing more than standard maintenance and a new alternator. That is pretty good for an $11,000 econobox. Plus the fact that I still get over 30mpg. To me, that is quality that lasts.

I am very happy with my SPI, and I would not trade it for a zetec. And I am sure I am not the only one who believes that.
01-27-2013 05:41 PM
amc49 'One preventable problem does not make an engine unreliable..............If a person knows of a preventable problem and chooses not to prevent it, that is the owners fault, not the engines.'

Someone should at least look up the difference between 'preventable' and 'KNOWN preventable', that difference would include Toyota's throttle by wire problems as well as the Firestone tire fiasco, and also most of the pople here who bought Focus SPI thinking they were getting good cars only to later have them blow up in their faces.

Only someone out to lunch would think anybody would take apart in a major way a known good running engine to fix something in it. Today's world has us expecting the quality to last, not fracture in pieces. I personally would dare it and if it happened then never ever buy that brand of car again.

'The engine has one flaw..............'

'Only 1 flaw, but man is it an expensive one... And It's hard to get motivated to replace the head before it happens.'

'I feel ya on that. The same reason I never did mine...........'

SPI guys right here in this thread, I don't hear reliable there at all...........apparently the preaching is falling on deaf ears.
01-26-2013 05:27 PM
sleepyboy
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One preventable problem does not make an engine unreliable. (Ask svt owners about their timing belt)

If a person knows of a preventable problem and chooses not to prevent it, that is the owners fault, not the engines.

No one ever said the valve seats were not a problem. the most definitely are. but they are a preventable problem.

now, you show me how many zetecs are on the road with 200,000-250,000 miles with nothing more than preventative maintenance. exaggeration and hyperbole are not great debate tactics. I think most zetec owners would be happy to get 150,000 miles out of their engines. an SPI with a new head can do that in it's sleep. and many spi's without the new head dropped their valve seat in the 140k-160k range. (though some were much sooner)

if you are going to be a troll, at least be a well informed troll. then someone might actually listen to you.



There are in fact quite a few very high mileage zetec's on this site with over 200k mi and quite a lot with over 150k mi on them.
01-26-2013 04:51 PM
Svizzara I'm replacing mine this summer with one from Cylinder Heads International, and I'll be sure to announce it happily somewhere in this SPI section of the forum. Gotta show that there's still some running! It's not the most glamourous way to spend money, but it's a necessity. It shouldn't cost too much anyway. The head itself is $225, and I don't think the labour will be much more than $500.

I've learned my lesson from other SPIs on here, that's for sure. It's tempting to spend money on actual modifications (I've allowed myself Eibach springs/shocks), but it would be downright stupid of me to refuse to do anything to remedy a significant problem that I know all about. I like the SPI anyway! Sounds very unique.

Thank god I only have 20K miles on the car.
01-26-2013 03:43 PM
crazy_urn
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I would ask all the people in the onsite broken SPI thread if they considered this engine to be reliable.

Any engine that runs fine for a time and then suddenly drops a valveseat the next time you start it is not reliable. Maybe one doing it yes, but MANY do it, enough to make anyone owning one worry when theirs will, that is absolutely not the definition of reliable.

How much better is the zetec? How about on average close to an additional seventy five to hundred thousand miles more life in many cases. I can't imagine anyone thinking that is a small advantage.
One preventable problem does not make an engine unreliable. (Ask svt owners about their timing belt)

If a person knows of a preventable problem and chooses not to prevent it, that is the owners fault, not the engines.

No one ever said the valve seats were not a problem. the most definitely are. but they are a preventable problem.

now, you show me how many zetecs are on the road with 200,000-250,000 miles with nothing more than preventative maintenance. exaggeration and hyperbole are not great debate tactics. I think most zetec owners would be happy to get 150,000 miles out of their engines. an SPI with a new head can do that in it's sleep. and many spi's without the new head dropped their valve seat in the 140k-160k range. (though some were much sooner)

if you are going to be a troll, at least be a well informed troll. then someone might actually listen to you.
01-26-2013 10:59 AM
TheGlassMaker I feel ya on that. The same reason I never did mine, but I look back now after my zetec swap and the car is just a paper weight currently awaiting yet another engine swap. It would have been so worth it. To still be driving it with no issues.

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