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01-02-2013 02:42 PM
VOLDAR
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Originally Posted by hotleadsingerguy View Post
...Either way, my problems didn't stem from those decisions...my problems stemmed from the way Ford handled the issues I had with the car.
I only told you what my impression was reading this thread. Sorry if I was mistaken.

As I stated before, I think that 90% of the frustration that is so "loud" here is because of some Ford dealers not being able to offer a good service or at least a logical explanation beside "it is supposed to act like this". And I tend to believe that's almost an US Ford dealers' problem. Yes, here in Canada we have also bad apples (I have 3 dealers arround my house in a radius of 25 km) and I know that one is great, one is not bad and the third is good for changing tires, nothing more. But, those bad apples are known and they go out of the market or they change to better service if they want to survive. It is unfortunate that in US you can't have the same. Because if you only have one dealer in a radius of 50 miles, well, this one will make the law. And nobody will ever challenge him.

P.S. The Focus is priced higher here. Maybe this is why Ford has a better service dealers ? Who knows ? And the same is for Europe and Australia, as far as I noticed.
01-02-2013 02:20 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by hotleadsingerguy View Post
Either way, my problems didn't stem from those decisions...my problems stemmed from the way Ford handled the issues I had with the car.
Well put.

If I were to buy a different car now, I would probably want slightly more room in the back for passengers, maybe manual, maybe hybrid, maybe diesel, probably turbo charged. Just because my current car isnít those things doesnít mean I bought the wrong car.

But speaking of our horrible trade-in values, Iíll be putting the ST spoiler and mid-wing on my car because itís not like itís going to make my car worth any less.
01-02-2013 02:12 PM
hotleadsingerguy
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Originally Posted by VOLDAR View Post
@hotleadsingerguy - Great you changed your Focus for a Honda Acord. Have a great ride !

But, after reading your latest posts, it seems to me that you were wrong in the first place when you bought the Focus. You are almost orgasmic over a MT but you chose a DCT. You love great space in the rear, but you chose the one who it is known to be not that "large". You wanted a mid-size sedan but you bought a compact hatch. I hope next time you buy a car, you'll be more carefull, because if not, you'll end up again losing money. My .02$
Not true. At the time that I bought the Focus I was actually happy to get an automatic because I had a long commute at the time in rush-hour traffic, I was completely fine with the space in Focus (I was even fine moving my seat up a bit for more room), and I wanted a compact hatch.

So you don't really know what I want/like, you're just inferring that the things I like about the Accord are the things I normally look for in cars. This is, by far, the largest car I've ever owned. It's bigger than the Mustang and BMW I've had. I love manual cars, but at the time that I bought the Focus I really wanted an automatic because of the drive.

Either way, my problems didn't stem from those decisions...my problems stemmed from the way Ford handled the issues I had with the car.
01-02-2013 11:42 AM
VOLDAR @hotleadsingerguy - Great you changed your Focus for a Honda Acord. Have a great ride !

But, after reading your latest posts, it seems to me that you were wrong in the first place when you bought the Focus. You are almost orgasmic over a MT but you chose a DCT. You love great space in the rear, but you chose the one who it is known to be not that "large". You wanted a mid-size sedan but you bought a compact hatch. I hope next time you buy a car, you'll be more carefull, because if not, you'll end up again losing money. My .02$
01-02-2013 11:31 AM
hotleadsingerguy
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Originally Posted by oritpro View Post
You bought a nice Honda, I think it looks better than the Focus and probably has a lot more room. The nice thing is they hold their value extremely well and it should give you several thousand trouble free miles.

As for navigation, dealers charge way too much for it. I can't see paying extra for that when my smart phone does the same thing and much much more.

The Pi is pretty amazing for a $35 SoC but it's doesn't take much to peg the CPU. I have A2DP, PAN, and HFP working in addition to the touchscreen but it's just too much so I am using the BT features of MFT for now. I'll be moving to a dual core Cortex A9 based Android on a Stick as soon as I can get Linux running reasonably stable on it.

Here's some pics of my set up inside the Focus, it is running Pandora and streaming the audio over MFT. I'd show navigation but then everybody would know where I live lol!. I plan on moving into a gen 1 or 2 Subaru within the next few months and then I'll replace the gauge cluster with touchscreens.



Looks pretty slick, but that's a lot of cables LOL I'd love to add a Pi somewhere in the dash, but it wouldn't really integrate into the system except for audio. It would be great to integrate the navigation into a Pi system like that, but then I'd have to put it somewhere...and that I'm not too sure about. The dash looks *clean* and putting anything else somewhere would clutter it I think.

Either way, this is vastly superior car. It's got a *lot* more room. It's exactly 1" wider, and exactly 20" longer...and it shows. I'm 6'3" and always had to scoot up my seat in the Focus when people were in the back. In this thing, I don't scoot it up and the people in the back have a good 5"+ more legroom than they need. Add a huge trunk, and it's fantastic. Plus it has way more power and a phenomenal manual transmission.
01-01-2013 03:04 PM
oritpro
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Originally Posted by hotleadsingerguy View Post
LOL Nice ^^^

I've seen some pretty cool things done with the Raspberrys. The Sport edition doesn't have a touchscreen, so doesn't have actual "HondaLink", but it does have some of the features like the Pandora integration and such. They said there's the ability to add some more of the app integrations later, but as of right now no. There's no way to add a touchscreen to the Sport editions, even for navigation (not possible to add Navi). That was kind of a downside to the car, but it's really not bad...Honda charges $2000 for their navigation system, so I was fine not going that route.

Plus the Sport has more power, better exhaust (and good-looking dual exhaust), and a different suspension. It's also pretty much the only way to get a manual transmission, since I hate the way the CVT sounds/acts.
You bought a nice Honda, I think it looks better than the Focus and probably has a lot more room. The nice thing is they hold their value extremely well and it should give you several thousand trouble free miles.

As for navigation, dealers charge way too much for it. I can't see paying extra for that when my smart phone does the same thing and much much more.

The Pi is pretty amazing for a $35 SoC but it's doesn't take much to peg the CPU. I have A2DP, PAN, and HFP working in addition to the touchscreen but it's just too much so I am using the BT features of MFT for now. I'll be moving to a dual core Cortex A9 based Android on a Stick as soon as I can get Linux running reasonably stable on it.

Here's some pics of my set up inside the Focus, it is running Pandora and streaming the audio over MFT. I'd show navigation but then everybody would know where I live lol!. I plan on moving into a gen 1 or 2 Subaru within the next few months and then I'll replace the gauge cluster with touchscreens.



01-01-2013 11:46 AM
hotleadsingerguy
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Originally Posted by oritpro View Post
Does your car have the new HondaLink Infotainment system? It looks pretty cool from what I've read about it, almost similar to MirrorLink.

I built a Mirrorlink like system on a Raspberry Pi controlled by a Lilliput 7" touchscreen and have tested it extensively at home, it get's road tested later this week.

LOL Nice ^^^

I've seen some pretty cool things done with the Raspberrys. The Sport edition doesn't have a touchscreen, so doesn't have actual "HondaLink", but it does have some of the features like the Pandora integration and such. They said there's the ability to add some more of the app integrations later, but as of right now no. There's no way to add a touchscreen to the Sport editions, even for navigation (not possible to add Navi). That was kind of a downside to the car, but it's really not bad...Honda charges $2000 for their navigation system, so I was fine not going that route.

Plus the Sport has more power, better exhaust (and good-looking dual exhaust), and a different suspension. It's also pretty much the only way to get a manual transmission, since I hate the way the CVT sounds/acts.
01-01-2013 02:43 AM
oritpro
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Originally Posted by hotleadsingerguy View Post
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Still pretty happy that I made the trade. The entire car just feels like it was put together better. The materials don't feel as *nice*, but definitely feel more sturdy and like they'll last. I haven't had a hiccup with the transmission (thank you 6MT) and the infotainment system has worked *beautifully*.
Does your car have the new HondaLink Infotainment system? It looks pretty cool from what I've read about it, almost similar to MirrorLink.

I built a Mirrorlink like system on a Raspberry Pi controlled by a Lilliput 7" touchscreen and have tested it extensively at home, it get's road tested later this week.

01-01-2013 01:56 AM
hotleadsingerguy So today I finished getting the new ride tinted and just took a few shots with the phone quick. Looks pretty freakin nice, in my opinion:




Still pretty happy that I made the trade. The entire car just feels like it was put together better. The materials don't feel as *nice*, but definitely feel more sturdy and like they'll last. I haven't had a hiccup with the transmission (thank you 6MT) and the infotainment system has worked *beautifully*.
01-01-2013 01:46 AM
hotleadsingerguy
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Originally Posted by e30og View Post
ask any problematic DCT owner if they would have Ford buy-back their problem ridden Focus in exchange for a confidentiality agreement and I doubt anyone of them would turn that offer down
I wouldn't. That's ridiculous.



And no, I didn't think that it would lose value that quickly simply because "it's a Ford". I've had Fords in the past that retained their value fairly well. The problem is that the Focus line once again has a terrible image because Ford doesn't care about their customers enough to help.

It wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem if Ford just said, "We know there's an issue, and we're looking into fixing it as soon as possible"; instead, they just tell their customers that there's nothing wrong and nothing to fix. Or even worse, they tell their customers it's something that *they* did that caused the issues, as if there were something we could do to cause these problems.

It's about lack of respect for the people that pay their bills.
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