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03-17-2014 09:17 AM
mac.mogul Finally, someone else with a brain enters the conversation.
03-17-2014 01:26 AM
Rracing I have to go with Mac on this, the trans mount and engine mount are part of the drivetrain. If you look it up in the shop manual it is listed under drivetrain. This is the misconception of wheel hop. it's caused by forward motion on the suspension from torque produced by the drivetrain "yes" but not because of the engine or the trans moving, it could contribute to make matters worse! The motor mount keeps the motor from having access movement and to reduce vibration same with the trans mount.

So lets remove the motor mounts and the trans mounts from the equation, say they are solid. You will still have wheel hop if you don't fix the suspension. If you don't believe me go to a professional suspension shop and ask the question yourself in regards to FWD
03-17-2014 12:28 AM
tallted Couldn't you consider motor and trans mounts as part of the suspension? After all the axles are mechanically connected to them. The trans axle is still an axle. The motor mounts seem like they would be similar to control arm bushings. Are they the sole source of wheel hop? No. Are they a single component in the solution to wheel hop? I think so.
03-16-2014 10:11 PM
Rracing
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing View Post
If you have bad CAB (Control Arm Bushings), yes mounts will not fix it. If you have good CAB and mounts you should not get wheel hop. It is not all mounts, we agree, but it is for sure part of the solution.
What I was trying to explain was the fact that the upper and lower also the trans mount "does cure the engine movement" and the 1st and 2nd or 3rd clunk that is all gone, but it does not fix the wheel hop in a higher horsepower car with FWD! I know that for a fact. I have raced many FWD cars, I have another one that is FWD same problem, till the suspension was corrected, had nothing to do with the motor mounts or the trans mounts. The mounts you are referring to, do stop engine and trans movement, but in higher horsepower applications it does not stop wheel hop. After I changed my suspension in my other FWD race car it did stop the wheel hop. It may help some cars, but doesn't always fix the problem.
03-16-2014 10:00 PM
TurboTechRacing If you have bad CAB (Control Arm Bushings), yes mounts will not fix it. If you have good CAB and mounts you should not get wheel hop. It is not all mounts, we agree, but it is for sure part of the solution.
03-16-2014 09:36 PM
Rracing
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exactly
Considering I have a Turbo Tech upper and lower and a Trans support and have terrible wheel hop, the engine and trans are not moving at all, but the car gets bad wheel hop in 2nd 3rd and 4th btw it has a gtx big turbo in it and puts down over 340whp. That solution may work on a stock ST but it doesn't work on a modified one? It's suspension!
10-02-2013 08:01 PM
Von551
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Originally Posted by TurboTechRacing View Post
Wheel hop explained, and YES it is mount upgrade related. All? No, but a good part of it:

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...nt-Inserts.asp



How Do Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts Reduce Wheel Hop?


Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts are best known for their ability to reduce wheel hop and allow high performance vehicles to put more power into propelling the car forward. Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts operate with the same principles as Solid Motor Mounts. Many ultra high performance vehicles use solid motor mounts because they allow for very little motor movement. Because the motor is held firmly in place, there is no bouncing of the motor assembly. This allows the entire driveline assembly to maintain a solid geometry, reducing the excess movement caused by the otherwise violent release of power.
exactly
10-02-2013 05:35 PM
TurboTechRacing Wheel hop explained, and YES it is mount upgrade related. All? No, but a good part of it:

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...nt-Inserts.asp



How Do Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts Reduce Wheel Hop?


Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts are best known for their ability to reduce wheel hop and allow high performance vehicles to put more power into propelling the car forward. Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts operate with the same principles as Solid Motor Mounts. Many ultra high performance vehicles use solid motor mounts because they allow for very little motor movement. Because the motor is held firmly in place, there is no bouncing of the motor assembly. This allows the entire driveline assembly to maintain a solid geometry, reducing the excess movement caused by the otherwise violent release of power.
10-02-2013 01:18 AM
Von551 a stiffer E-Focus rmm will help. this video is a great visual. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr6ssEdlAl4
09-17-2013 12:12 PM
Bogey I could see it(RMM) making a difference maybe slightly in the noise that we all hate.
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