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Today 01:47 PM
klodkrawler05
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Originally Posted by Chas View Post
as much as i understand and respect this, we literally don't even look at resumes past work experience if they job hop every 2 years. If you aren't getting incentives, it's just a shitty business model.



get a skilled job then u idiet moran
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Originally Posted by gold_zx3 View Post
That's pretty ******g awesome man! I remember all the petitioning everyone was doing at school when they were trying to get the FRIB to come to MSU. How many more years are they looking at until it is operational?
first portion of the beamline comes online next year, 2018-2020 is the scheduled end of build.
Today 01:44 PM
gold_zx3
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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 View Post
I work at the Facility for Rare Isotope beams.

I'm a full time staff employee, FRIB operates just like any other company except our budget comes from the government/higher up at MSU instead of product profit.

I'm responsible for the overall layout of the new particle accelerator we're building.
That's pretty ******g awesome man! I remember all the petitioning everyone was doing at school when they were trying to get the FRIB to come to MSU. How many more years are they looking at until it is operational?
Today 01:25 PM
FocusedOnSVT Any of you get Windows 10 today yet?
Today 12:34 PM
klodkrawler05 I work at the Facility for Rare Isotope beams.

I'm a full time staff employee, FRIB operates just like any other company except our budget comes from the government/higher up at MSU instead of product profit.

I'm responsible for the overall layout of the new particle accelerator we're building.
Today 12:10 PM
gold_zx3 What do you do at MSU? School of engineering or are you doing facility stuff?
Today 11:48 AM
klodkrawler05
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Originally Posted by Chas View Post
as much as i understand and respect this, we literally don't even look at resumes past work experience if they job hop every 2 years. If you aren't getting incentives, it's just a shitty business model.
Fair enough, so whats the required length of time at a given job to not be considered a job hopper at your work? what do they do to instill loyalty in their employees and ensure they don't want to move on?

Currently my resume looks like so:

MSU Design Engineer: July 2013-Present 2 years
Proficient Machining April 2013-July 2013 6 months (applied here the same time as MSU but took MSU 6 months to make an offer, I was brought on for a single project with potential to stay longer, however the offer from MSU was double the vacation time/benefits and 20% pay raise)
Borisch, Solidworks Designer June 2007-April 2013 6 years
Today 11:16 AM
gold_zx3
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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 View Post
I loved my first engineering job, gladly worked OT, the projects were fun, the pay/benefits were good, the team I was on was cool we were friends outside of work too etc.

after 6 years I got laid off without a moments notice, that's about the time I realized that to the people at the top actually making the decisions you're just a number. X worker does Y things well and costs us Z dollars. any time one of those things stop making sense to them you're gone. It's not personal its just business. If I was running a company I'd likely wind up making the same choices. So with that in mind I always focus my work/career around me and my family, not around some perceived loyalty to the Co.

That said I do game the system a bit, 2 years is about my minimum length of employment at a place unless an amazingly awesome offer comes along to make me move sooner, but I feel after 2 years I've given somewhere a pretty fair shake and don't have to explain during interviews how I'm not a job hopper. I'd gladly stay longer for somewhere like my first job, but I'd still be keeping an ear to the ground and an eye on other opportunities.

I agree that those who change jobs wind up making more money, most of the times I've moved jobs I've gotten a large jump in pay or a big change in benefits. meanwhile during my stay at work the best I've seen is a 5% increase in pay over 1 year.

This new job may be one I'll stay at longer as there seems to be some pretty good opportunity to climb up the ladder a ways and I think I'm pretty quickly nearing the max net worth of my position without moving to a higher position.
That's exactly my perspective. I can't really complain about my time here, it seems the moment I start looking at other opportunities I get a raise or promotion. I feel like they keep dangling a carrot in front of me...I've increased my pay 50% steadily over the last 5 years but it's not saying much since I started out slightly below the average for my field. 2009 was the absolute worst time to graduate and so I took the first salary job I could get. On the other hand Grand Rapids is booming yet still an affordable place to live. I could probably make 10-20 grand more in Chicago but I'd also be paying a lot more to live there.
Today 11:09 AM
Chas
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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 View Post
I loved my first engineering job, gladly worked OT, the projects were fun, the pay/benefits were good, the team I was on was cool we were friends outside of work too etc.

after 6 years I got laid off without a moments notice, that's about the time I realized that to the people at the top actually making the decisions you're just a number. X worker does Y things well and costs us Z dollars. any time one of those things stop making sense to them you're gone. It's not personal its just business. If I was running a company I'd likely wind up making the same choices. So with that in mind I always focus my work/career around me and my family, not around some perceived loyalty to the Co.

That said I do game the system a bit, 2 years is about my minimum length of employment at a place unless an amazingly awesome offer comes along to make me move sooner, but I feel after 2 years I've given somewhere a pretty fair shake and don't have to explain during interviews how I'm not a job hopper. I'd gladly stay longer for somewhere like my first job, but I'd still be keeping an ear to the ground and an eye on other opportunities.

I agree that those who change jobs wind up making more money, most of the times I've moved jobs I've gotten a large jump in pay or a big change in benefits. meanwhile during my stay at work the best I've seen is a 5% increase in pay over 1 year.

This new job may be one I'll stay at longer as there seems to be some pretty good opportunity to climb up the ladder a ways and I think I'm pretty quickly nearing the max net worth of my position without moving to a higher position.
as much as i understand and respect this, we literally don't even look at resumes past work experience if they job hop every 2 years. If you aren't getting incentives, it's just a shitty business model.

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Originally Posted by egman2005 View Post
I've been at my current job 5 years have had less than a dollar in raises total. Da fuq
get a skilled job then u idiet moran
Today 11:02 AM
egman2005 I've been at my current job 5 years have had less than a dollar in raises total. Da fuq
Today 10:33 AM
klodkrawler05 I loved my first engineering job, gladly worked OT, the projects were fun, the pay/benefits were good, the team I was on was cool we were friends outside of work too etc.

after 6 years I got laid off without a moments notice, that's about the time I realized that to the people at the top actually making the decisions you're just a number. X worker does Y things well and costs us Z dollars. any time one of those things stop making sense to them you're gone. It's not personal its just business. If I was running a company I'd likely wind up making the same choices. So with that in mind I always focus my work/career around me and my family, not around some perceived loyalty to the Co.

That said I do game the system a bit, 2 years is about my minimum length of employment at a place unless an amazingly awesome offer comes along to make me move sooner, but I feel after 2 years I've given somewhere a pretty fair shake and don't have to explain during interviews how I'm not a job hopper. I'd gladly stay longer for somewhere like my first job, but I'd still be keeping an ear to the ground and an eye on other opportunities.

I agree that those who change jobs wind up making more money, most of the times I've moved jobs I've gotten a large jump in pay or a big change in benefits. meanwhile during my stay at work the best I've seen is a 5% increase in pay over 1 year.

This new job may be one I'll stay at longer as there seems to be some pretty good opportunity to climb up the ladder a ways and I think I'm pretty quickly nearing the max net worth of my position without moving to a higher position.
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