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12-17-2012 03:30 PM
2wheeladict My mom just bought hers and got the letter in the mail. Bartow ford in Florida said they will give her a rental car of her choice until a fix is created. I've driven hers with the 1.6 and it would beat the dog shit out of my 2.0 duratec focus for sure. I like it a whole lot. Seems like at least the ford dealer she got it from is trying to make things right.
12-14-2012 11:44 AM
swagfocuswagon
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180hp, 180tq (at 2000rpm) is worked to death in a 3300 lb vehicle?
its about the same as your Oldsmobile (assuming u have the 3.1 engine), but would feel better due to the low rpm torque.
With a little motor like that yeah. And yeah its a 3.1 (though the ecotech could kill it) but I cant imagine how much more work it has to do moving the heavy fusion body around. I feel like it would spit the crank out the oil pan lol. I feel like a 2.5l would be better for both the car and the truck.
12-12-2012 03:50 PM
thenorm
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My question is why put a 1.6 in a heavy vehicle like a Fusion or Escape anyway? I feel like its being worked to death in those vehicles.
180hp, 180tq (at 2000rpm) is worked to death in a 3300 lb vehicle?
its about the same as your Oldsmobile (assuming u have the 3.1 engine), but would feel better due to the low rpm torque.
12-12-2012 12:19 PM
SydneyRoo I'd still like to see the new Escape offered with a 2.0L Duratorq Diesel engine here in North America (or at least Canada :p). It would suit the Escape perfectly - it would not be overly laboured like the small displacement turbo engines, the massive low end torque would haul the heavier vehicle with ease, and the highway fuel economy would be phenomenal. 45 mpg highway? Yes please! They already use the engine in Europe and it's been around long enough that the bugs should be worked out of it.

I did rent a 2.0 ecoboost Escape to do a road trip to Chicago last month, I loved the car (it was loaded too), had GOBS of power (compared to my Focus lol) and didn't seem to have any turbo lag whatsoever. But I couldn't live with it as my own daily driver due to the fuel economy it got. 1000 mile trip only averaged 25.5 US mpg. Better than a V6 I suppose but not good enough for a 4 banger for my liking.
12-12-2012 11:35 AM
swagfocuswagon My question is why put a 1.6 in a heavy vehicle like a Fusion or Escape anyway? I feel like its being worked to death in those vehicles.
12-10-2012 05:07 PM
GhiaFan A week after it announced a big recall, Ford Motor says that it has pinpointed the cause of overheating. It says a simple software update will fix the fire risk in the 2013 Fusion sedans and Escape crossovers with a 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine.

The problem, it turns out, was a combination of two issues, says Raj Nair, Ford's vice president of global product development. "We had a sequence of events that caused the cooling system software to restrict coolant flow," he says. Most of the time, he says that would not be big a deal.

But if the car has another cooling system issue that could result in low pressure, such as a loose filler cap or a pinhole-sized puncture in a hose, the coolant could boil. If the coolant boils over, the engine goes into extreme overheating. Coolant leaks out and comes in contact with the hot exhaust system, catching on fire. Ford said it has seen 12 fires in Escapes and one in a Fusion.

The coolant needs of various parts of an engine vary with conditions, such as cold weather or during warm up. Ford engineers found that in certain conditions, water was being directed into the radiator to be cooled, but a closed valve briefly -- such as for 15 seconds -- prevented the coolant from flowing back into the engine.

That, too, normally is not a problem -- the engine easily can handle the very short time without coolant return. But again, if another issue has resulted in low pressure, the coolant never makes it back.

The software flash will ensure that water is not directed into the radiator unless the electronically controlled return valve is ready to send it back.

Nair says the repair will take about a half day. Mechanics will check customers' cooling systems to make sure they have not overheated already.

This is the third recall of the Escape with this engine for separate fire risks since its introduction last summer -- the first for a defective fuel line and the second for a coolant plug on the engine. The redesigned Fusion just went on sale this fall.

Nair says Ford has full faith in the 1.6-liter EcoBoost engine, which has been used in Europe since 2010. More than 80,000 have been made in Europe, where there have been no recalls, but where the engine has a different cooling system.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...boost/1759063/
12-07-2012 06:47 AM
Paladin simple problem if overheating is making things catch fire and pop freeze plugs out. add a hood scoop and a duct to dump air over the turbo . there is really no place for all of that heat to go besides the firewall
12-06-2012 06:24 AM
whynotthinkwhynot Surely it's not coolant. I've never had coolant cause a fire, but then-- new coolants are different. It's not ethylene glycol being used any more because that's toxic. I'm not sure exactly what Ford is using now, but some of the new coolants are an organic acid.

I am personally a bit afraid of owning an E-boost engine until these have been out long enough for people to get over 100k miles on it. I know it's not the same, but everyone I know who has owned a turbo engine has had issues with the turbo before 100k.
12-05-2012 12:47 PM
nateyo My girlfriend got a 1.6l fusion about two months ago. It's a great little car, got 42mpg on the way back from Richmond the other day and that's with winter fuel. Hopefully they'll get this all sorted out, as it's an awesome car. :)
12-03-2012 08:54 AM
2012silversel Apparently it could be a couple of things. Some frost plugs may be improperly installed causing them to pop out, the coolant leaks on to the exhaust, the water evaporates and the glyco starts the fire. The other thing I read is there is a maze of coolant lines behind the engine, any leaks will result in the same as above.
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