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11-24-2012 09:09 PM
felixthecat
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Originally Posted by JonathanGennick View Post
Was reminiscing down memory lane yesterday. Remembered back to my first-ever, new car:

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find....ion=sbs&id=300

39 mpg highway. Yep. Better than today's Focus. It was a great first-car for a newly-married couple on a budget. I had the very base model -- 1985 1/2 model year, 1.9 liter engine, zero options. It was exciting enough to us at the time, and the fuel economy really did make a difference, enabling us to travel and make trips we otherwise would have had to forego.
You didn't go for the escort GT or Lynx rs ?
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I had not thought about cars getting heavier. Is safety driving that weight gain?
Yup & some of the cars are growing again= getting bigger.
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My first new car was a '97 Escort. I got about 28-30mpg in heavy city traffic (Honolulu and Nashville) and 36-39mpg on the interstate with the entire family in the car and trunk full of luggage with the A/C turned on.
L69, how 'bout a LB9?
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The gas was better back then too, no mandated oxygenates reducing the energy content of the fuel.
Sure was ^^^^^^^^^^^
11-24-2012 05:56 PM
mjd4277 My 1st new car was a 2001 Kia Rio. 5-spd/AM/FM/CD,A/C,13 inch alloy wheels,rear spoiler(all of which was part of the upgrade package). One of the most reliable cars I've ever owned. I was gettting 31-32 m.p.g. on average(it was rated 27 m.p.g. city and 32 m.p.g. highway at the time),although I managed to get as high as 34 in spurts.
11-24-2012 02:51 PM
84Camaro_L69 My first new car was a '97 Escort. I got about 28-30mpg in heavy city traffic (Honolulu and Nashville) and 36-39mpg on the interstate with the entire family in the car and trunk full of luggage with the A/C turned on.
11-18-2012 07:25 AM
waterinfish yeah, i think so, The gas was better back then too, no mandated oxygenates reducing the energy content of the fuel.good luck.
11-15-2012 02:17 PM
JonathanGennick
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I have had four Geo metro's over the years, all 3 cyl 5 speeds. Couldn't beat them for milage, but could not keep them together up here in the rust belt.
Yep. Had a three-cylinder Metro hatchback that used to deliver close to 50 mpg highway. Drove it into the ground and replaced it with a four-cylinder sedan. Drove that into the ground too.

Liking the Focus though. Not really wanting to go back to a Metro. But! But I can see myself adding, say, a Fiesta in a year or two. Those look like fun little cars these days.
11-15-2012 02:12 PM
lddavis In addition to the increased weight (and yes; safety is a large part of that) and horsepower to compensate, the EPA has changed mileage test procedures since then. Current procedures produce ratings about 10% less than the previous ones -- on average. Cars designed for high mileage with small engines often suffered more. (The Prius, for instance, dropped from 60 MPG to 48 with the new tests.)

For a couple of examples, the old tests had an average city speed of 22 mph, while the highway estimate was based on 48 mph. Speed has a major effect on mileage. Or, the old tests used accelerations equivalent to a 0-60 time of 18 seconds. The new tests are more realistic; hence the lower numbers.
11-15-2012 01:20 PM
cpalz I have had four Geo metro's over the years, all 3 cyl 5 speeds. Couldn't beat them for milage, but could not keep them together up here in the rust belt. Almost always got low 40's with them, with the exception of my XFI model, which I could hit 50 mpg without trying real hard. Still have one sitting in my driveway with a bad motor.
11-15-2012 12:59 PM
elsolo The gas was better back then too, no mandated oxygenates reducing the energy content of the fuel.
11-15-2012 12:40 PM
#1fordfan If you could find a diesel escort of the same year,your mpgs would be close to 50!! but good luck,when i was looking for one a couple years ago,I could only find one in six months on ebay and it was in pretty rough shape. I would imagine parts would be hard to come by now,especially for the diesel which wasn't that popular of an engine choice.
11-15-2012 11:04 AM
JonathanGennick I had not thought about cars getting heavier. Is safety driving that weight gain?
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