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11-14-2012 04:32 PM
Marbs I Already have a tune.
11-14-2012 03:21 PM
1turbofocus You need a tune next

Tom
11-14-2012 02:04 PM
felixthecat
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how much more power did you actually make with the cams and other mods?
I don't know. It does pull harder thou. I'm going to the next dyno days & figure it out.
11-14-2012 09:02 AM
AllCarFan how much more power did you actually make with the cams and other mods?
11-13-2012 10:22 PM
felixthecat
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What he said. If cams runs $400-$600(and all I could find where 05 and older cams) and I'm sure heads are up there in price too plus the money for a new tune will only net 15hp, I'm not so sure it's worth the money. What kind of power gains will just the cam net? Any idea?
I paid $300. for 224-0010 crane cams from optionsauto. The cams really seem to make the motor breath better= it wants to rev now. Compare the oems w/ the cranes= there is a difference. A tune goes for $379.-$430. or so. I went w/ a Fwerk's header/flex/ stealth muffler/ crane cams 0010 & a Fwerk's tune. I already had done a BSD plug & windage tray, CFM's UDP's, Steeda's sri & FRPP's Borla 2.5'' exhaust. Those mild cams do make a difference as does the other mods. I perfer the 23 motor. I guess if I had a 20 motored car, I'd be looking at cost difference= 23 head vs a 23 motor install. A header,cams,tune, intake are all going to cost the same. So the question is the power & grunt for a 23 headed 20 vs a 23 motor install. Just to throw it in cost effectiveness of a 23 motored car vs yours now?
11-13-2012 07:24 PM
Marbs I've heard to many horror stories with UDP's on these motors. How are cams on making it harder to pass inspection every year?
11-13-2012 07:12 PM
drewts86 I'd say throw on UD pulleys and TB maybe.

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$400 for a used head
Don't know where you're paying $400 for a used head, but Pick N Pull you can get them for about $80 for DOHC heads. If you are going to go with the heads I'd say the Crower stage 2's sound about right for what you've already got installed. They're just under $400 on Crower's website
11-13-2012 06:00 PM
Marbs
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I dont know of any 'actual,' dyno-proven numbers. Only advertised and what vendors say.

At $400 for cams, $400 for a used head, $700-$800 for install, plus tune....you are in for nearly $2000 for 20?hp. For another $1000, one could tap into another 60hp with a turbo
That's what I'm saying. I'd install cams and heads myself, well with the help of my engineer budy who has done all this before, to save money. But for that high of price for that little gain, I don't see cost per gain as a money well spent scenario. If that's all the power gained out of that money spent, I'll keep saving for a turbo/engine swap/new car.
11-13-2012 05:28 PM
AllCarFan I dont know of any 'actual,' dyno-proven numbers. Only advertised and what vendors say.

At $400 for cams, $400 for a used head, $700-$800 for install, plus tune....you are in for nearly $2000 for 20?hp. For another $1000, one could tap into another 60hp with a turbo
11-13-2012 05:25 PM
Marbs
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15hp for just the head or do you mean 15hp for the new head, cams, and revised tune?
What he said. If cams runs $400-$600(and all I could find where 05 and older cams) and I'm sure heads are up there in price too plus the money for a new tune will only net 15hp, I'm not so sure it's worth the money. What kind of power gains will just the cam net? Any idea?
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