Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum - Reply to Topic
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace


Go Back   Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum > Ford Focus Discussions > Ford Focus & General Car Chat > Ford Hits Major Pothole With 2012 Consumer Reports Reliability Survey

Ford Focus & General Car Chat Discussion Forum relating to nonspecific Ford Focus models, car purchasing, auto industry news and any car talk.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Thread: Ford Hits Major Pothole With 2012 Consumer Reports Reliability Survey Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Ford Focus Forum, Ford Focus ST Forum, Ford Focus RS Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
11-05-2012 10:42 PM
ducrider Even recently, I see Focuses advertised as "automatic" trans cars. It's the dealers that need training, and need to know how to respond to customers. When I bought my early 2012 Focus (5-speed manual) I noted to the salesman that I suspected there would be issues with the automated-manual transmissions, and he seemed unsure what I was talking about. There needs to be education all up and down the line. Europeans probably understand the mechanics better than Americans do.
11-01-2012 04:36 PM
lyonsroar the DSG in my VW is pretty darn smooth...a hiccup every once and a while, but no jerky nothing
11-01-2012 04:07 PM
cbdallas Some of the complaints are valid, and some are in regard to traits of a DCT that will always exist. "Smoothness" isn't its forte, when compared to a transmission with a torque converter. But....the grinding and rattling issue isn't a trait of a well-designed DCT. There's plenty of proof on Youtube of some really horrible noises people are tolerating, and this is the issue Ford needs to address, along with the crap input/output seals that are causing clutchpack problems. I'm a little mystified that this isn't of more concern to Consumer Reports than a buggy MFT. Ford needs to step up on this transmission before their reputation lands back in the toilet.
11-01-2012 07:13 AM
whynotthinkwhynot Yeah, thanks MS, way to be like you always are. Raise your hand if you want your car to run like a Dell....... waiting......... still waiting......Beuller?

We also have the DCT woes in the Fiesta/Focus, and a whole slew of new models. I know, most of those DCT woes are not real problems, but unfortunately the flood of uninitiated DCT owners going into dealers is making the dealers susceptible to treating every case like it's just another customer who doesn't understand the inherent differences between the DCT and hyd ATs. Real problems get swept under the rug, and that makes for very unhappy customers who then encourage people who are just not adjusting to the DCT into believing that they have a larger problem. Of course, that can't be fixed- can it?
10-31-2012 10:11 PM
azdamay I saw this and I knew ultimately it was going to concern MFT. Some may consider lowering Ford's reliability rating based on MFT unfair to Ford, but when a company makes a decision to put a system like that in their cars, and it doesn't work (properly) that's a big deal. This isn't sticky window cranks, this is a major system of the car and the method for controlling other systems. It should work.
10-31-2012 03:24 PM
xxMichaelAnthony
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyboyike View Post
Once you drive a Toyota, you never stop.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjd4277 View Post
Unless you crash and burn!
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiscoGTI View Post
And are too stupid to shut the car off.


I'll aways drive a Ford. I dont care what these reports say. It sounds like they are basing it purely on MFT system issues and minor things that people are nitpicking at.
10-31-2012 02:28 PM
lddavis The original article did note that it was MFT and the DCT that were responsible for most of the issues. I

'd agree that the MFT stuff isn't exactly "reliability" in the sense of critical problems for long-term ownership -- but it certainly would be annoying if it didn't work. Since the scores are accumulations of past data, it's not clear how MFT software updates affect the ratings.

As for the DCT -- well, I bought a manual, in part to avoid those problems. That particular part isn't Ford's best job.
10-31-2012 12:47 PM
YesMAN
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phokus View Post
http://news.consumerreports.org/cars...able-cars.html

Ok so here's my beef with this.
What the hell is with this list?

See how the Explorer is listed twice? Now look at how the Focus is listed with hatchback.
Does that imply the sedan is more "reliable" ?

I mean the Explorer V6 4WD was listed differently from the V6 2WD that means the other Explorers are ok? Meaning the 4cyl is fine and maybe the Ecoboost V6 too
Also by the way, I have to say.. the Explorer's front end is ugly as hell.. lol
Just logged in to CR to check out the details. Yes I subscribe to CR online - but not for car ratings. I agree they are biased.

The Focus sedan scores "excellent" in the vast majority of categories and "good" in the rest except for "transmission minor" and "audio system" in which it scores "poor".

The hatchback scores one tick below the sedan in the following categories for whatever reason: suspension, paint / trim, squeaks & rattles and power equipment. I guess these lower scores explain why the hatchback only is on the bottom 10 list.

What surprises me most is the sedan's excellent rating under squeaks & rattles. Mine has several squeaks and rattles and they appear to be chronic based on many other posts here reporting the same ones.
10-30-2012 07:02 PM
Phokus http://news.consumerreports.org/cars...able-cars.html

Ok so here's my beef with this.
What the hell is with this list?

See how the Explorer is listed twice? Now look at how the Focus is listed with hatchback.
Does that imply the sedan is more "reliable" ?

I mean the Explorer V6 4WD was listed differently from the V6 2WD that means the other Explorers are ok? Meaning the 4cyl is fine and maybe the Ecoboost V6 too
Also by the way, I have to say.. the Explorer's front end is ugly as hell.. lol
10-30-2012 02:34 PM
elsolo
Quote:
Originally Posted by lyonsroar View Post
I don't take much stock in Consumer Reports either...but I'll have to agree with their analysis of Ford. Just judging by the sheer number of posts on FF complaining about problems here....problems there...
agreed
This thread has more than 10 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:45 PM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Audi S3, Ford Fusion and Acura TLX. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area. Challenger Hellcat - Charger Hellcat