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Today 11:07 AM
mukti Okay, probably just my inexperience with cars is making me more worried than I should be. Thanks!
Today 10:42 AM
sailor The "covered in oil" pictured (dirty at the edge) is prob. from the oil wiped on the sealing ring when installing a new filter. Take a finger full & slop it on would be typical, no need to precisely apply the oil so none drips to the outside of the ring.

For commercial oil changes, drain bolts are a disposable item. Depending on car brand/policies of the company they can be replaced at every change. (one outfit I know replaces all Ford & Honda ones at each change)

As long as it holds until the next change, it's done it's job as far as they may be concerned. If you're unhappy enough, they might just give you a new one to make you happy.

Oil color is hard to tell at a glance, fresh can vary quite a bit by brand/type & used is supposed to be dirty when it's doing it's job. What I see on the side of the pan looks like normal dirty oil.
Today 09:52 AM
mukti When I got my oil changed at the dealership for the first time (free one from purchasing the car), the oil seemed dark when I looked at it immediately after the change. Since it was a dealership, I assumed I could trust that they changed it. I'm out changing my oil with my father's help, and when we started to drain the oil, he said it looked much darker than it should (I'm a bit over 10k miles, and the first oil change was at 5k). There were a few other oddities we found, like the filter was covered in oil. It didn't look like it was leaking, since the felt panel didn't have anything on it, but there was a layer of oil coating the filter... I just assume they did a sloppy job.



When we went to unscrew the plug, we noticed that it seemed to have been tightened far tighter than it should have been; and again, the oil was super dark. The plug looks like it might have been slightly stripped as well




We didn't slip at all when we were unscrewing the plug, so we know we didn't do this. Are these always like this, or was it likely stripped by the dealership?

Should I do anything about this? Would the dealership do anything?
Today 09:41 AM
block Yep...Chrysler dealer didn't put my wife's Caravan's air filter on right one time and it was likely them who lost one of the clips that hold the air cover on.

Has anyone noticed rust underneath when changing their oil? I'm not sure what it's called, but there is a frame member along the back end of the "felt" engine bay cover (under the back of the firewall in other words).

That frame member is getting very rusty along its front edge. I bought my car just as winter was starting in 2013, but did not drive it until Spring, so it saw almost no salt that year. When I did the first oil change summer of 2014, it was already rusting. I'll likely keep this car at least 10 years and it will be extremely rusty if I don't do something now. I bought black semi-glass Rust-Oleum...
I figure this won't be covered under warrantee (right?).

The "felt" engine bay cover stays wet (I washed mine and it definitely absorbs water). It surely absorbs/holds salty water for days on end in the winter against the metal. The screws and felt under them were still salty from winter (as of a week ago when I changed the oil and washed the screws and felt).
Yesterday 10:06 PM
Scougar Honestly... the number of times I've had to fix my own car because of 'professionals' doing their job.

1) Rear brake change. I wasn't familiar with the setup on these calipers on this particular car so opted to have the garage that was testing the car do it. Somehow they managed not to bleed the brakes. They commented "be careful, the brakes will be snappier than you are used to". The only snapping was me, when I almost failed to stop. I had to redo their own work.

2) I has a garage to do my timing belt on a Honda S-MX. It was previously supercharged, so I needed them to set it back to stock settings with a new belt at the same time, and reset the distributor. They failed to A) Put the air filter back on properly.. it was sucking in unfiltered air. B) They failed to setup the distributor to stock settings.

3) I don't think I should go on....as the only thing I can trust a garage to do is hand me a bill.


Note: My father-in-law is a Master Tech of 37 years with Toyota, and I have the utmost respect for him and others that take their job seriously. If you are taking care of someone'
s property, you should do it right.
Yesterday 04:31 PM
mukti Will this be the same for a 2014 MK3 Focus? I assume so, since it's still a MK3, but I want to make sure before I start lifting my car and trying to change my oil.
05-12-2015 12:40 PM
heyjayman Back in the 1990`s I had that happen to me. It only takes once, and you swear "never again".

Like my dad taught me: when you screw something up, you did it with good intentions. When you pay somebody, and THEY screw it up, at the very least they're incompetent. At worse, it was malicious!

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Originally Posted by Tigeo View Post
Well…it finally happened. I got burnt getting my oil changed by someone else.
05-12-2015 12:21 PM
sailor Laying anything removed on a shop rag is one of the better 'tricks' to avoid issues with any repairs/servicing. (works for tools as well)

Doubt there's anyone who has done many who HASN'T fired one up with an oil cap off, it can get messy quick.

Pulling the fill cap BEFORE draining is another way to try & ensure oil gets added before firing it up, an additional clue that a step remains to be done.
05-11-2015 05:21 PM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by wavsine View Post
Nobody will ever take as good of care of your car as you do. ...
Too true. I know that most professional mechanics have more training and more experience than I do, but the faster they work the more money they make. I make a point of never being in a hurry when I work on my cars, so I can (almost always) take the time to check and recheck my own work. Being a bit OCD helps, too.

Another advantage I have is that when I work on a car, it's the same one repeatedly. Professionals constantly work on different cars. If there's anything unsual happening with mine that's not completely obvious then I'm more likely to see, feel, hear, or smell it than they would. (And to know that it is not "normal".)

I know what Tigeo means about getting busy and not always having the time to do everything myself. Unfortunately, there have been very few exceptions where I have trusted someone else to work on my cars that it has not resulted in disappointment, or worse -- especially at new car dealer service departments. I am really dreading having to take my new Focus to a dealer to have the fuel pump replaced, or to have to tackle that big a job on my own. I'm gettin' too old for this stuff.
05-11-2015 05:01 PM
Arco-Zakus
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Originally Posted by Tigeo View Post
... I could smell oil burning. I figured it was a small spill that can happen but upon opening the hood, saw that they left the filler cap off (it was sitting on the front plastic piece covering the radiator). Sprayed oil all over. I lost it b/c I keep my motor clean. I had only driven a few miles and the level was still at full on the dip stick. ...
I did this myself once after topping up my wife's car between oil changes. Just as I was pulling the empty plastic oil bottle out of the filler hole someone came up and asked me some questions that distracted me from what I was doing. (Normally when I work on my cars there is no one else around.) We were in a hurry to hit the road for a long drive, so I forgot about replacing the cap when I closed the hood and we took off.

Luckily I have a very sensitive nose and I smelled it pretty quickly. (No one else in the car did.) Less than a quart had sprayed out, but it made a real mess.

On the plus side, by the time I got all the oil wiped up, the engine area was pretty spotless. Hot oil does a good job loosening up gritty dirt in all the nooks and crannies. I never did get the blanket of insulation on the underside of the hood clean, though. At least I knew it was me who was to blame for the mess.

After that experience I started putting the oil filler cap right where the hood support strut clips down, so I can't miss it when putting the hood down. I usually also put a red shop rag under the cap to make it even harder to miss. Not an experience I want to repeat.
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