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10-31-2012 08:03 AM
amc49 'Yeah, I've heard people tend to get lazy in their old age.'

LOL.

More like we've just figured out you can check evaporative qualities of oil by simply checking the dipstick................

Great filters become something of a moot point when much of the oil is bypassed around the filter as many engines do.

Guess at flashpoint? When was the last time anyone saw a motor with the oil on fire?.................................I thought so, not much of a guess there if you ask me. On watercooled engines the oil will not flash unless something is wrong, if so you'd see the results in deposits under valve cover. Since mine are clean then I submit there is no need for a guess there. Answer seems pretty clear to me.

Fuel dilution? Easy, there will always be a slight amount, you can't get around it. If more then you will know because the engine is not running right. Modern PCM'ed cars keep that under much, much better control. In fact that is the major reason for engines lasting as long as they do now, the lack of dilution. I can think that out, or no guessing there either.

I use mechanical oil pressure gauges to keep track of bearing condition and the like. You will catch loose bearings before they break stuff if you just pay attention to one. Cheaper than analysis and pay for it once only. No guessing there.

This ain't rocket science, if you keep your eyes open you can detect most of what an analysis will show without getting one.
10-31-2012 07:58 AM
md11mx the trick is changing the filter. thats what its there for,,,filtering. just prefill it.
10-30-2012 11:58 PM
felixthecat
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Just 2 harp in,,,oil anal can be good for identifying individual component wear. change your oil & filters. buy great filters. my oil is always no darker than apple cider. the kind you let you kids drink. i don't change my oil but every 10k or so. and i'm a castrol syn man.
Being in a exstreme weather conditions, I'd think I want to change the oil & filter a little closer to 5000 miles in Alaska.
10-30-2012 08:53 PM
md11mx Just 2 harp in,,,oil anal can be good for identifying individual component wear. change your oil & filters. buy great filters. my oil is always no darker than apple cider. the kind you let you kids drink. i don't change my oil but every 10k or so. and i'm a castrol syn man.
10-27-2012 10:54 AM
Scout706 I like synthetic oil for peace of mind, don't care what brand.
10-27-2012 10:05 AM
TboneZX3
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You guys worry way too much about things that impact you way too little. You'll figure that out in another twenty or thirty years just like I did.
Yeah, I've heard people tend to get lazy in their old age.
10-27-2012 12:57 AM
TboneZX3
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What is a NOACK spec? So Pennzoil Ultra is the best, say compared to Mobil 1?
The NOACK volatility test determines the evaporative loss of engine oil at high temperatures. The lower the NOACK spec, the better, or less evaporative the oil is.

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I've switched to Pennzoil Ultra only because of the lower NOACK numbers. 6.4% vs 11% for Mobil1.
10-26-2012 11:14 PM
felixthecat
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At around $25 for a 5-quart jug of Mobil1, it does seem a little backward to spend $25 on an oil analysis so you can determine whether or not you can save $25 by not buying oil.

And Qweesy, please come out of the 70's and join us here in 2012. Pennzoil conventional is of a completely different forumation than it was when it was causing sludge in your Pontiac Catalina, and Pennzoil synthetics are not even remotely related to their conventional oil in regard to forumation.

Mobil1 ceased to be 'the best' when they downgraded from group IV base stocks to group III. At best, they're now known for being marketing champs for selling highly-refined group III oils as 'true synthetics'.
>>>>So it sounds like Mobil 1 isn't that good, huh?<<<<
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If your intention is to run longer OCI's, you can spend $35 and get a TBN report, and estimate how long you can safely run that oil in your engine before the additives are depleted. If you can do this and extend your OCI by a few thousand miles, it won't take long before you've saved enough money on oil changes to make up the price of the analysis and more. So, there is at least a potential savings.

This is only one benefit among many of UOAs. We're all free to spend our hard-earned dollars as we please, but I feel it's worth our time to learn about the potential benefits of oil analysis before dismissing it as a waste.'



I've done the same--I just hope Shell isn't lying about the NOACK spec. I will say that consumption has been very low for the past 5K miles I've been running PU.
What is a NOACK spec? So Pennzoil Ultra is the best, say compared to Mobil 1?
10-26-2012 06:16 PM
1turbofocus Oil is easy , change it regular , if you change it before its used up then its still cheaper then an engine
If you run the engine hot change it right away

If you race or run the car hard change it a little sooner

Do this and you will be good with any oil you choose synthetic or non synthetic


Tom
10-26-2012 04:39 PM
amc49 I can easily refute 3/4 of that but I'm tired right now. Simply put, not so in my world, even analysis results in a guess. Completely and totally unnecessary. You will always get some leaching and dilution, impossible not to. No guesswork there.

Save thousands? I don't even spend thousands, I'd be hard pressed to save hundreds. You got me generating cash now. Actually I do, I save drained oil to use for other things, $2.50 a quart you know.............

You guys worry way too much about things that impact you way too little. You'll figure that out in another twenty or thirty years just like I did.
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