|02-17-2014 02:54 PM|
|02-17-2014 02:50 PM|
|aptech77||^ Well said!|
|02-17-2014 02:38 PM|
|emet59||I concur. This was my third Ford, and last. It's not just the crappy car with the crappy transmission. It's all the denial and stonewalling by Ford to a problem that they know exists. Equally bad is that the Salespeople continue to sell this car as an automatic, and only after the problems are reported that the service folks say, "Well don't expect this perform like an automatic. It's not. It's a manual with a clutch controlled by a computer." The time to reveal that is BEFORE!! the sale. Not after. This is bait and switch and out and out fraud...I'll be talking to the Consumer Protection Bureau to protect future Focus buyers from being swindled like I was...|
|02-17-2014 12:40 PM|
|aptech77||A few people along the way, as we told our Ford Focus Lemon story have said "Well, they can't all be that bad." To them, I say, probably not, but if 7 trips in for service, 3 legal consultations, two applications into the BBB, one trip to downtown Chicago to ride around with the BBB arbitrator (who was well aware of the problems with this car), countless hours on the phone with Corporate Ford, lawyers, local Ford dealer service, and filling out paperwork, oh yeah, and finally once you are ABLE to get rid of your car, trying to convince dealers to take this car as a trade and not robbing you on the trade-in amount - if this is something you have time for, I say take your chances, and good luck. If however, you prefer to enjoy a much more hassle-free vehicle experience, I strongly recommend you don't go with this vehicle. So long Ford! Never again will I own anything from your company.....EVER!!!!|
|02-10-2014 08:51 PM|
|greg4focus||Might have posted this somewhere else, but old and new. night and day difference.|
|02-10-2014 08:47 PM|
I got a 2014 SE/DCT in Nov 2013, I traded this month (Feb 2014).
Gave around 18,160 after all rebates, Got $16,700 trade-in on a F150.
F150 was at x, so the trade-in value was pretty accurate.
Of course, dealers can move numbers around on paper all day, but I pretty well had all my numbers in line
and went in with an OTD figure I'd pay, and they accepted it on the spot!
glad I didn't lose more than $1,460! No more DCT for me.
truck just glides right along. I am going to miss the 33MPG in the car, but in the end I'm more happy with the truck!
|02-09-2014 05:21 PM|
|the_stick||I think the high-spec cars with all the options are the problem. The options inflate the list price but their 'value' is nowhere near as much, so the options depreciate instantly by much more than the car as a whole. I had a 2013 SE with DCT. Paid $17k, got $14.5k trade-in 7 months later. With trade plus $1.5k I bought a new 2013 SE manual for $16k. Subtract 6000 miles fair wear-and-tear from the loss on trade-in, I was out only a couple of thousand, which for my peace of mind and to be rid of the DCT was worth it.|
|02-09-2014 01:54 PM|
Say someone is selling a used microwave on craigslist. They're asking $100. If it's worth no more than $50 and you pay the $100 they're asking, you still overpaid. People can ask or list an item for however much they want, asking price has nothing to do with value.
|02-09-2014 01:39 PM|
I don't think the Focus has a great reputation but probably depreciate at about the same rate as any other domestic "C" class car: pretty fast.
|02-09-2014 12:23 PM|
|aptech77||according to the dealer the years don't matter as much as people think. dealer openly admitted that the reputation is what hurts this vehicle. they don't get shit for them at the auction market.|
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