|11-01-2012 02:50 PM|
|JimsterG||I live in Tucson whre it is very hot in the summer and my car does not have shutters that open. Yet if i set the temperature control to AUTO and set the temp to 73 it works well. Although some cars have the manual AC controls, the basic HVAC system is probably the same|
|11-01-2012 02:35 PM|
|11-01-2012 02:14 PM|
Maybe the earlier software was more aggressive in shutting the shutters or something as I recall the April 2011 build 2012 I had in November for a rental with the manual HVAC controls had a poorly functioning a/c at freeway speeds on a 50-60 degree day but as soon as I slowed down and puled off the freeway the a/c started to get ice cold again ergo on that case at least the shutters were affecting the a/c operation by allowing the condensor to vapor lock and not work as effectively the car was getting 35.x mpg keeping up with traffic and generally seeing how quiet it was at speed.
|11-01-2012 02:06 PM|
|thehun||As soon as I saw the shutter system....major flaw design especially in the long term so I made sure I didnt get a car with shutters.|
|11-01-2012 12:08 PM|
At issue is the a/c condenser its behind the shutters that cover the radiator and they open when the car engine needs to cool down.aka the thermostat opens the fan turns on the shutters open. There is more to the system but for the most part that’s the science behind how it works. There is some air flow when the shutters are closed but simply not enough for any a/c system to work properly.
The main issue is the fords design, when we had cool temps like 85 to 95 degrees,
the car did not need as much fan time so the a/c condenser gets little or no are flow. Even with the a/c on max the shutters are closed, Thus giving us a cabin temp of 75 to 80 degrees (way to hot).
The a/c temp at the dash (vents) averaged 45 to 60 degrees on max but the temps were up and down as the shutters opened and closed over and over.
We live in the Mohave Desert so it gets hot like 100 to 115 even 125 degrees when it was that hot the car is Needing more fan time so the fan runs more so the a/c seemed to work.
Because the a/c condenser was getting max air flow.
The flaw is Fords shutter system having the a/c condenser behind the shutters;thus no air flow.
After consulting an attorney I was told I could use the Lemon law because of the few months i owned the car, low miles and a multitude of required documented trips to the dealer for the same a/c issue.
He also told me the focus is selling like hot cakes and ford will never
Admit to a design flaw and or an a/c issue. so no full refund.
A factory Ford rep. also told me there was nothing wrong with the car.
So I traded my new 2012 ford focus in on a new 2012 import.
The a/c blows 29 degrees all the time.
I don't feel its fair to list the brand i now own but there truck line
did pull the space shuttle.
I have never been so let down in my life with a US made car.
|10-09-2012 06:32 PM|
|thehun||Just FYI if you cannot get anywhere with the Dealer or Ford, contact BBB Auto Line..it is free|
|10-09-2012 05:05 PM|
|10-09-2012 04:14 PM|
And, yes, it is otherwise a perfect car. (Okay, I don't have MFT, but I wouldn't want it...) I still baby mine and I've almost had it a year. If it's just a transmission quirk, no problem. I hate conspiracy theories anyhow...
|10-09-2012 07:12 AM|
well, my Focus has been in the shop now a whole week.... and the call I got yesterday was that they were still trying to figure out what was wrong, but they have now duplicated the issue.
FORD, Just replace the damn thing now!!! If you don't, it will be the very last Ford I will ever, ever, own.....
|10-03-2012 03:08 PM|
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