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10-10-2012 04:36 PM
forceflow2
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Originally Posted by oritpro View Post
I've dissected the update and found that the files are indeed signed. Someone with the right resources could certainly find a way to circumvent that as well as install a different OS. Then it would just be a matter of getting the system talking to the rest of the car.

The Windows Automotive debugger would definitely come in handy and it only costs around $7000. I work with WinDBG at the kernel level all day long. If someone wants to buy the tools and supply a donor vehicle or hardware I'd be happy to take a crack at it.
I think this post right here is pretty indicative of how likely this is to succeed.
10-10-2012 04:03 PM
copernicium112
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
....or hit by a Wonder Bread truck.
What? That over-processed pasty-a$$ stuff still exists? (eh, actually I really knew it still existed but I've been thinking about a lifestyle change lately and thought I would try out "bread snob" for a bit)
10-10-2012 03:58 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by feta_mgp View Post
Even if it's worse, atleast you'll be transparent and tell us what's going on :D and take feedback seriously!
True. It'll also be open source, so you could technically fix it yourself if I became preoccupied or hit by a Wonder Bread truck.
10-10-2012 03:53 PM
feta_mgp
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
I know, right!?



I'll be talking to the computer/electrical engineer at my work today about how I can use what very little programming abilities I have to do this.

Note: It might end up worse than what we currently have. heh...
Even if it's worse, atleast you'll be transparent and tell us what's going on :D and take feedback seriously!
10-10-2012 03:16 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by oritpro View Post
The Windows Automotive debugger would definitely come in handy and it only costs around $7000.
Goo! No thanks. Besides, I probably have to spend $1k on a new clutch for this car first.

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Originally Posted by oritpro View Post
I work with WinDBG at the kernel level all day long. If someone wants to buy the tools and supply a donor vehicle or hardware I'd be happy to take a crack at it.
I'm thinking about getting my hands on some hardware as well...
10-10-2012 02:56 PM
oritpro
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I was under the impression that these files are validated during software upgrades. Replacing files changes their signature and prevents this from working. Am I mistaken?
I've dissected the update and found that the files are indeed signed. Someone with the right resources could certainly find a way to circumvent that as well as install a different OS. Then it would just be a matter of getting the system talking to the rest of the car.

The Windows Automotive debugger would definitely come in handy and it only costs around $7000. I work with WinDBG at the kernel level all day long. If someone wants to buy the tools and supply a donor vehicle or hardware I'd be happy to take a crack at it.
10-10-2012 01:12 PM
TehMark I was under the impression that these files are validated during software upgrades. Replacing files changes their signature and prevents this from working. Am I mistaken?
10-10-2012 12:18 PM
Kabigon
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Originally Posted by lddavis View Post
Microsoft is using Flash and not Silverlight... hm :)
What???

1) MFT is based on the MS Auto 4.x platform (Silverlight is integrated into Windows Embedded Automotive 7).
2) The developer of MFT (not Microsoft) chose to use Adobe FlashLite.
10-10-2012 12:10 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by Rownan View Post
Lets get xda-developers.com on the case.
I know, right!?

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Originally Posted by feta_mgp View Post
But seriously there has to be a way to rewrite this system...
I'll be talking to the computer/electrical engineer at my work today about how I can use what very little programming abilities I have to do this.

Note: It might end up worse than what we currently have. heh...
10-10-2012 12:04 PM
feta_mgp It was known a long time ago that MFT utilized Flash Lite, lol. But this is still kinda cool nonetheless.

Of course it would be much better if we just had a native program winning through WinAuto and not essentially a program running through a program.

But seriously there has to be a way to rewrite this system...
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