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09-26-2012 07:57 AM
UnleashedBeast Ditto, I'm back to running 93 E10 and my city mileage looks very close to the same. Since it's 40 cents per gallon cheaper, and allows my car to run better, it's a no brainer to run the cheaper/higher octane fuel.
09-25-2012 10:55 PM
Power Surge Troy, I came to the same conclusion. I found a local Gate station selling ethanol free 91 octane. It was 4.15/gallon vs 3.75/gallon for E10 89. I ran three tankfuls and saw no improvement in mpg at all.
09-25-2012 01:37 PM
cessna1
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i've noticed a good 5% drop in mileage both city and hwy.
If that is correct, it is the quality of the gasoline the ethanol is blended with. Ever think of the economics if E0 was all there was and the oil companies couldn't use the part of a barrel of crude they are able to pawn off now---less usable gas from a barrel equal more barrels used and I bet a barrel would be worth more. I think that's the way economics work anyway.
09-25-2012 09:22 AM
cobie56
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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated View Post
I don't think its required here but I do think it IS required to have blend. I wonder if there is any point in putting in premium. I guess I have to just get premium and HOPE it is only 5.7% ethanol vs 10%.

"The fifteen states that don't require stations to tell you if the gasoline contains ethanol: (alphabetically) California, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Ohio.
Read more at http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Does-your-state-require-ethanol-labeling/1715-402716-251.aspx#6QtKWUHMCQxxC0mc.99"
from here:
http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Does-...02716-251.aspx

Also I found this, but it's kind of confusing. Does this state that ALL gas has to be 10% or simply that it is easiest to meet the requirements by making all gas 10% blend?
http://www.ethanoltoday.com/index.ph...id=86&Itemid=6

I haven't seen any labeling of E10 E0 E85 etc EVER.
Up until a year or so ago, new york state required ethanol only in certain areas where air pollution was considered to be a problem, like NYC, buffalo, etc. Then the idiots in charge decided that the whole state should be E10 compliant. what a pita. Since then (in two diff cars) i've noticed a good 5% drop in mileage both city and hwy. sucks.
09-24-2012 10:59 PM
UnleashedBeast Florida is a mandatory ethanol state. E0 is only sold for marine use/mostly off road use.

It's LAME!
09-24-2012 04:35 PM
mac.mogul Almost ever station I've been to in Kansas has their fuel labeled "This fuel may contain up to 10% Ethanol by volume."

Most stations also make a pretty big deal if they are ethanol free because it's good marketing these days. Most normies don't even notice but then you get the added benefit of enthusiasts coming from miles away to buy your gasoline.
09-24-2012 04:24 PM
Justintoxicated
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Originally Posted by AZfocus2012 View Post
I know in most states they require the 10% ethanol sticker on the pump. I think it should be national law. Some stickers are hard to find as they are designed to blend in with all the other stickers on the pump.
I don't think its required here but I do think it IS required to have blend. I wonder if there is any point in putting in premium. I guess I have to just get premium and HOPE it is only 5.7% ethanol vs 10%.

"The fifteen states that don't require stations to tell you if the gasoline contains ethanol: (alphabetically) California, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Jersey, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Ohio.
Read more at http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Does-your-state-require-ethanol-labeling/1715-402716-251.aspx#6QtKWUHMCQxxC0mc.99"
from here:
http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Does-...02716-251.aspx

Also I found this, but it's kind of confusing. Does this state that ALL gas has to be 10% or simply that it is easiest to meet the requirements by making all gas 10% blend?
http://www.ethanoltoday.com/index.ph...id=86&Itemid=6

I haven't seen any labeling of E10 E0 E85 etc EVER.
09-24-2012 03:32 PM
AZfocus2012
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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated View Post
I don't even know how to tell what I am getting unless I buy a kit. I think it's safe to assume that everywhere in California has E10 gas only.
I know in most states they require the 10% ethanol sticker on the pump. I think it should be national law. Some stickers are hard to find as they are designed to blend in with all the other stickers on the pump.
09-24-2012 03:23 PM
mac.mogul The Conoco/Phillips E0 station by my house has 87, 89, and 91 octane fuels and they are approx $0.10 more than the E10 stations around town. I get at least 2-3 mpg better using E0 so it definitely works out in my favor.

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Originally Posted by Justintoxicated View Post
I think it's safe to assume that everywhere in California has E10 gas only.
Darn hippies!!
09-24-2012 02:59 PM
Justintoxicated I don't even know how to tell what I am getting unless I buy a kit. I think it's safe to assume that everywhere in California has E10 gas only.
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