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11-07-2012 02:25 AM
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I'm planning to buy a Focus ST as well.. I already decided to go for the ST3 option.. and im planning to give a down payment of 20%.. Also I know I have a good credit but I don't understand how dealers proceed to finance the 80% left. Do I have to talk to a bank? they do it automatically? What is the process? I don't want to go to the dealer and know nothing. Thanks
Check with your bank and their rates. Often, you're get a better rate and be better prepared to sit down with the dealer. The dealer also arranges financing through banks.
11-06-2012 10:54 PM
Mav3rick21 I'm planning to buy a Focus ST as well.. I already decided to go for the ST3 option.. and im planning to give a down payment of 20%.. Also I know I have a good credit but I don't understand how dealers proceed to finance the 80% left. Do I have to talk to a bank? they do it automatically? What is the process? I don't want to go to the dealer and know nothing. Thanks
10-03-2012 06:54 PM
lddavis I see what you mean. I'd certainly agree nav is nice, but not necessary. This will be my first car with one built in, though I've driven a number of rentals with add-on units.

I also like planning the trip in the advance, which is why the Google/Mapquest download to the car nav seems like an interesting feature. I'd always wind up with a page (or two, or several) of directions, which itself is a problem to refer to, especially at night.

I like having the distance to the next interesting event -- kick back for half an hour, or it that next turn coming up in three minutes? Navs I've had in rentals can be more or less good about this; sometimes they have too many trigger points for every road that merges with the freeway.

But I should stop hijacking the advice thread; we can take up nav debates in the tech forum.
10-03-2012 03:23 PM
acbauza I say this is the last car with Nav, because I found that it's cumbersome getting it to understand me and by the time it's figured out where I am going I can use my phone set it down and read well in advance where I am going. I also prefer to plan my routes ahead of time so I can focus on driving.

Would have preferred to have 360* sweeping gauges vs an 8inch LCD that eventually will fail. Lastly, it's been a little weird at times especially at startup. Sometimes the Microsoftisms come out in having to wait for it as it loads or if you do too many things at once it gets confused.

Nav is a nice feature but not a necessary feature.


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Every one of the initial ST2s I saw had the nav (along with the moonroof), though they're both optional, and unrelated as far as packages go. Moonroof is a standalone option; the nav is bundled with stereo/MFT upgrades.

Why do you say this is the last car in which you'll have nav?

I've tried driving using my smartphone as nav, and I'd much rather have a big screen mounted in the dash. Much as I like Google Maps, it's not a replacement. At the least, you need a spot to mount the smartphone / dedicated GPS on the dash where you can see it, it won't slide around. Hands-free operation is a bonus.

Also, I like a dedicated nav system for having a local copy of maps. Google eventually let you pre-download information about places you intended to go, but the smartphone is pretty crippled without an active, quality, data connection. That's not always available, and you don't want nav to depend on it. The flip side is having a decent -- and inexpensive -- way to update that local cache.

The SD card heads in the right idea. Now the car just needs to hop on the WiFi and download free updates while I'm asleep :)
10-03-2012 01:50 PM
lddavis Every one of the initial ST2s I saw had the nav (along with the moonroof), though they're both optional, and unrelated as far as packages go. Moonroof is a standalone option; the nav is bundled with stereo/MFT upgrades.

Why do you say this is the last car in which you'll have nav?

I've tried driving using my smartphone as nav, and I'd much rather have a big screen mounted in the dash. Much as I like Google Maps, it's not a replacement. At the least, you need a spot to mount the smartphone / dedicated GPS on the dash where you can see it, it won't slide around. Hands-free operation is a bonus.

Also, I like a dedicated nav system for having a local copy of maps. Google eventually let you pre-download information about places you intended to go, but the smartphone is pretty crippled without an active, quality, data connection. That's not always available, and you don't want nav to depend on it. The flip side is having a decent -- and inexpensive -- way to update that local cache.

The SD card heads in the right idea. Now the car just needs to hop on the WiFi and download free updates while I'm asleep :)
10-03-2012 01:16 PM
acbauza My ST2 in Performance Blue has no moonroof, but it does have NAV. To be honest this is the last car I will get Nav in.

Anthony

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You can always order a car from a dealer. Advantages are getting exactly what you want; disadvantages are having to wait.

Also, Ford has allocations for popular models, to make sure one dealer doesn't grab them all, and get them to the places that actually sell. I doubt you'd run into this with a Focus, but it's possible. Maybe the ST, right now, since it's just starting to be produced.

Dealers usually prefer to sell stock they already have in inventory, if for no other reason than they've borrowed money to stock it and they're paying interest. So you might have to twist their arm to place the order.

The reason most people that ordered their Focus ST months ago are still waiting is that Ford is just now (Oct 1) beginning to produce the ST3 variant (the 202A options package). There's a backlog of preorders from before the car was in production at all that they have to work through.

Even under good conditions, 8 weeks is not an unreasonable time to expect to wait if you order a car.

It's good that you can walk away. The ability to just say no is your best negotiating tool with the dealer.

I'm not a moonroof fan either, and I've seen exactly zero of the initial round of ST2s come out without a moonroof. Guess that's just what Ford chose to build in the first wave.
10-03-2012 10:38 AM
SCTSVT That's what I figured but I was almost hoping since sometimes you can get special options with Ford products I could get a two tone with red paint. The black is just too boring for me. Hopefully Ford will offer red on red like my SVT currently is. Until then, I think I'm going to hold off and see if that's a late 2013 or 2014 option
10-03-2012 02:01 AM
lddavis
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Is it possible to order a Race red ST2 and get the tangerine scream interior in it?
Ronald McDonald, is that you? :)

Seriously, though -- the Ford configurator (see ford.com, find the Focus ST section and "Build and Price") does not allow that combination. Race Red forces the Smoke Storm inserts.
10-02-2012 08:11 PM
SCTSVT Is it possible to order a Race red ST2 and get the tangerine scream interior in it?
09-24-2012 06:06 PM
Vorschlaghammer! Congrats to you too man. I can't wait till I get to drive that thing home! I was lovin it in the test drive, but I just wanted to open it up and see what she really had! Haha. Gonna be a tough 8 weeks!
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