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10-03-2012 09:18 AM
Tiger-Heli Been there, done that - I had a Ford Tempo in for warranty work and the dealer recommended a plug replacement and tune-up. I was surprised - both b/c I didn't give them any reason to pull the plugs and b/c I had just changed them a few thousand miles ago - 30K plug interval. He admitted that they were just going by the mileage on my car, so I said to put the car back together and I'd pick it up.

The worst example I had was a tire shop telling me I needed new rear rotors on a gf's Honda with rear drum brakes.
10-02-2012 11:27 PM
st falcon My brother in law just brought his 2007 Explorer into the dealer for transmission warranty work, and the called him "informing" him that the oil really needed to be changed, as the oil change sticker was faded, and the oil "looked pretty dark"...he had just replaced the oil not 300 miles earlier. With Royal Purple. SO, take taht recommedation with a grain of salt, unless they can give you some specific need to change it at 30K, against the owners manual interval of 150K!
09-25-2012 12:21 PM
bball40dtw
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Originally Posted by Pretherius View Post
No. And a BIG "NO" when that's the manufacturer's recommended interval.


^ This.

You're not hurting anything by doing it more often, but I'm not sure it's merited. To me, if they're recommending doing it at 150K and you're doing it every 30K, that's a lot like taking a 10K recommended oil change interval an doing an oil change every 2,000 miles. If the peace of mind is worth the money, go for it.

Just IMHO, $200 for that service isn't crazy. But it IS all the more reason to learn how to do it yourself. Truthfully, if it's as simple as a drain plug and pumping a couple quarts of fluid, yeah I'd probably do it myself every 50K or so; it should be too cheap and easy not to. But for $200 a pop, it's really questionable.
The VW procedure isn't as simple as drain and fill. The fluid has to be at the right temp and you need VAG-COM to do some of it. $200 is way too much because parts should be less than $50. It shouldn't take a Ford mechanic much more time than an oil change.
09-25-2012 10:41 AM
Pretherius
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Originally Posted by sjdwales View Post
u will find it hard to find a place to touch/change your transmission fluid at 100k miles, let alone 150k miles.
No. And a BIG "NO" when that's the manufacturer's recommended interval.

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Originally Posted by Tiger-Heli View Post
150K intervals in the manual - already posted.
^ This.

You're not hurting anything by doing it more often, but I'm not sure it's merited. To me, if they're recommending doing it at 150K and you're doing it every 30K, that's a lot like taking a 10K recommended oil change interval an doing an oil change every 2,000 miles. If the peace of mind is worth the money, go for it.

Just IMHO, $200 for that service isn't crazy. But it IS all the more reason to learn how to do it yourself. Truthfully, if it's as simple as a drain plug and pumping a couple quarts of fluid, yeah I'd probably do it myself every 50K or so; it should be too cheap and easy not to. But for $200 a pop, it's really questionable.
09-25-2012 07:22 AM
Tiger-Heli 150K intervals in the manual - already posted.
09-25-2012 01:07 AM
sirhawkeye
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Originally Posted by jbird1955 View Post
Well I just had my oil changed again along with the typical "Works" package (27K miles). While I was checking out my service writer mentions to me that for the next visit my DCT fluid will need to be changed as per warranty specs. Price is about $200.00 just for that!

Anyone else heard of this one? Joe
From what I know, you shouldn't need to change the trans fluid before 90k or 150k I think. I personally will do mine about every 60-90k but I don't think it needs to be done at 30k. Take it somewhere else to confirm, but even in the manual, I think it states that it's a sealed transmission and doesn't require regular service.
09-24-2012 11:46 AM
bball40dtw $200 @ 30K is ridiculous. VW doesn't even recommend changing DSG fluid until 40K miles. Rates for that service at a VW dealership range anywhere from $250 to $500. Parts alone cost $135 for the DSG fluid change.

Ford has cheaper parts, less fluid in the transmission, and cheaper labor rates. The VW fluid costs about $20 a liter, and you need six liters. They also recommend a specialized tool for changing the fluid (It costs over $100). I was able to make a tool from $15 worth of hardware store parts and do the maintinence for under $150, plus the cost of pizza and beer for a friend.
09-24-2012 11:44 AM
Tiger-Heli FWIW - it was previously pointed out the the Focus manual under severe conditions specifies "30K fluid change - (except Focus)", which implies the severe limit for the Focus is 150K also (and make you wonder why the Fiesta isn't excluded also, but ...)
09-24-2012 12:07 AM
Kabigon
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
True, but it's been happening when they have seal leaking issues... I'm not quite sure how they're related, though. Does the leaking fluid get into/on the clutch and ruin it that way? Whatever it is, the TSB calls for new seals and clutches (as well as the adaptive learning cycle) when there is transmission fluid leaking from the seal.
Every so often (at low speeds and low engine RPM) I hear the noise from the clutches that I believe people are referring to as the "grinding noise". Otherwise, I have no problems whatsoever.

I'm not sure if a leaking oil seal makes it worse but I have read posts from some folks that have had their clutches replaced and they say that the grinding noise is gone.

The point of my previous reply is that the "grinding noise" is not something related to the transmission "box" itself so changing the oil more frequently is probably not necessary or helpful.
09-23-2012 10:07 PM
suss6052
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Originally Posted by sjdwales View Post
u will find it hard to find a place to touch/change your transmission fluid at 100k miles, let alone 150k miles. its 150k miles at normal driving conditions, what is normal driving? if you change the maintenance program to excessive idling/real driving conditions im guessing its showing it about every 30k miles. on my own vehicle i would do it every 50k miles.
If your car is a traditional planetary automatic transmission with a torque converter then yes you likely need to change the fluid every 30k or less. However the DCT is essentially a manual transmission form a lubrication stand point and no one usually changes the transmission fluid in a manual at 30k as it isn't broken down at that point the DCT should be fine following the same intervals. The old transmission uses a lot more fluid and also runs hotter due to the torque converter and oil pump, but the DCT is more akin to a manual transmission with less than 3 quarts of Dual Clutch fluid which is similar to MTX fluid.
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