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02-06-2014 10:07 AM
dan50
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Originally Posted by kam327 View Post
As promised here's my third (and probably last) UOA on my Focus. Wanted to do a direct comparison between the Pennzoil Platinum and Motorcraft SynBlend over the same mileage and same driving conditions - commuter car, same commute for both periods.

It's no surprise the PP was in better shape. But I don't see it greatly exceeding the value of the MC on a cost/mile basis. The PP has about a 40% price premium over MC. The MC would've easily gone to 9k miles. Would the PP have easily gone to almost 13k miles? Impossible to say based on this UOA but I'm guessing they're about even on value.

Sure, NOACK is a concern. But the recent PQIA testing of PYB and QS conventionals with their ultra-low noacks solves that problem.

I think after exhausting my stash of PP I'll stick to PYB at about 8-9k OCIs.


PYB may be a good answer for you. But take a look at the recent thread about the new GTL Pennzoil Platinum: the new PDS shows 5w/20 Noack of 8.6% or thereabouts, which is considerably higher than the PQIA result for PYB. So either something was wrong with the PQIA's testing or that particular batch of PYB was an aberration. It wouldn't seem to make sense to Pennzoil to put more GTL into PYB than Platinum. No telling when/if Pennzoil will publish a new PDS for PYB, of course...

The UOAs look great, incidentally.
02-06-2014 09:31 AM
kam327 As promised here's my third (and probably last) UOA on my Focus. Wanted to do a direct comparison between the Pennzoil Platinum and Motorcraft SynBlend over the same mileage and same driving conditions - commuter car, same commute for both periods.

It's no surprise the PP was in better shape. But I don't see it greatly exceeding the value of the MC on a cost/mile basis. The PP has about a 40% price premium over MC. The MC would've easily gone to 9k miles. Would the PP have easily gone to almost 13k miles? Impossible to say based on this UOA but I'm guessing they're about even on value.

Sure, NOACK is a concern. But the recent PQIA testing of PYB and QS conventionals with their ultra-low noacks solves that problem.

I think after exhausting my stash of PP I'll stick to PYB at about 8-9k OCIs.


05-24-2013 10:10 AM
kam327
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Originally Posted by GoldenHour View Post
with the focus i'll change oil every 5k which means the only time I will need to pop the hood is when I add wiper fluid. at the 5k intervals i'll have air pressure brought back up and at every 10k have the tires rotated.
If you need to keep them aligned, I'd do both oil change and tire rotation at 7k. As long as you're not too hard on your engine (overall MPG >30?) 7k should be no problem even on straight dino, and 10k is too long for a tire rotation.
05-24-2013 09:55 AM
GoldenHour
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Originally Posted by UnleashedBeast View Post
Watch in the next few weeks when I begin a dedicated thread for UOA results as I track them in a detailed excel speadsheet. We did the same thing on SVTPerformance forums.

GT500 UOA thread

I have my factory fill sample from 945 miles as a baseline test. There will be additional testing with the Amsoil 5W-20 currently in the sump at every 3,000 mile interval. I will not change the oil at all, only test every 3,000 miles. Here is my factory sample.





It amazes me that a cheap lubricant can perform easily to 5,000 miles, yet still have life left in it.....

but people still have a hard time understanding that a premium lubricant like Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 can easily perform up to 15,000 miles or one year per oil change (severe service schedule).



Amsoil Preferred Customers only pay $26.00 for a complete oil analysis, also includes free TBN and oxidation testing. Blackstone charges you extra for TBN and they do not offer oxidation testing to my knowledge (unless specifically requested). Amsoil's $26.00 price also includes UPS return shipping. Polaris Labs actually does the testing. OAI is only a cover name from Amsoil.
I pulled my dipstick the other day and it was maybe 1/3 of a quart low after 4k miles which tells me that oil would need to be added before 15k miles.

I use the house brand "cheap" oil. always have and usually change my oil around every 3k miles and have never had a problem with any vehicle.

with the focus i'll change oil every 5k which means the only time I will need to pop the hood is when I add wiper fluid. at the 5k intervals i'll have air pressure brought back up and at every 10k have the tires rotated.
05-24-2013 06:28 AM
kam327
Motorcraft Synblend Goes 8,000 Miles Safely

Here's my 2nd UOA. The Motorcraft SynBlend safely went to 8,000 miles. Maybe could've stretched it to 10,000, but I probably won't in the future.

I have Pennzoil Platinum and a K&N filter on now, not because I like synthetics but because it was $20 for both at AAP back in March. I plan to run that to 8,000 miles too and do an apples to apples comparison, in other words how much better does the PP perform, if any.

11-17-2012 12:46 PM
macdiesel I test my oil every few years to see how long I can go between oil changes. I'll post up some of mine in the other thread. The reports can be reassuring if you track your car a lot, much urban driving, or spend much time in the upper rpms.
11-17-2012 10:17 AM
UnleashedBeast
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Originally Posted by kam327 View Post
Anyone else have used oil analyses they can post or other information on the performance of their oil?
If they do, post it in the dedicated UOA thread. Excel spreadsheet coming soon.

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11-17-2012 08:23 AM
kam327 Anyone else have used oil analyses they can post or other information on the performance of their oil?
08-22-2012 08:52 PM
UnleashedBeast Watch in the next few weeks when I begin a dedicated thread for UOA results as I track them in a detailed excel speadsheet. We did the same thing on SVTPerformance forums.

GT500 UOA thread

I have my factory fill sample from 945 miles as a baseline test. There will be additional testing with the Amsoil 5W-20 currently in the sump at every 3,000 mile interval. I will not change the oil at all, only test every 3,000 miles. Here is my factory sample.



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Originally Posted by kam327 View Post
I dumped the factory fill at about 1,500 miles and used cheap (but decent) old Pennzoil Yellow Bottle 5W20 and a PureOne filter. Changed that at 6,500 miles and sent in the sample, so a relatively low 5,000 miles on the oil.

To my novice eyes the results look great. Wear metals are relatively low especially for such a new engine, and very little fuel dilution. With a TBN of 3.9 and flashpoint of 410 the cheapo oil had plenty of life in it.
It amazes me that a cheap lubricant can perform easily to 5,000 miles, yet still have life left in it.....

but people still have a hard time understanding that a premium lubricant like Amsoil Signature Series 5W-20 can easily perform up to 15,000 miles or one year per oil change (severe service schedule).

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Originally Posted by dnprall View Post
How much did the analysis cost you?
Amsoil Preferred Customers only pay $26.00 for a complete oil analysis, also includes free TBN and oxidation testing. Blackstone charges you extra for TBN and they do not offer oxidation testing to my knowledge (unless specifically requested). Amsoil's $26.00 price also includes UPS return shipping. Polaris Labs actually does the testing. OAI is only a cover name from Amsoil.
08-22-2012 08:45 PM
TboneZX3 I will have my first one in about a month, and I'll be sure to post it. It will be my second change, with only about 4K miles on the oil.
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