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09-01-2012 06:01 PM
biking4life Also, I've heard that while the 1.4 Multiair is a great motor in the Fiat 500 Abarth, it just doesn't have it in the 2013 Dart. Honestly, read some reviews on it, but more importantly in my book, watch expert reviews on Youtube like Consumer Reports, Steve Hammes, Motorweek, Motor Trend, etc.

Seems to me that the majority of basically saying while the 1.4 is a good engine overall, it's no match for the Dart and has horrible turbo lag with the manual (I can't imagine it's any better in auto form). In conclusion, I looked at the Dart for a bit because of the cool looks, lots of customization, 6 speed manual, quiet and refined ride, and the great tech, but with CJD/Fiat's spotty reliability and requirement of premium gas in the 1.4, it just wasn't worth looking into more. If you're sold on a Dart, wait for the R/T with the 2.4L.
08-26-2012 10:56 PM
Originally Posted by mjb457 View Post
I am ready to make a deal.... so Im leaning towards a Focus SE...I want automatic,phone,sirius(minimum) reabates are showing $2k on the 2012 models.... (I get Xplan pricing(is this a gimmick?) what would be good price this labor Day weekend? MJB
It replaces the Caliber, which replaced the Neon - having owned a Neon and having looked at the Caliber, it doesn't interest me at all with the poor reliability of its predecessors.
08-26-2012 10:54 PM
scott7278 Duplicate post - the right post is below.
08-26-2012 10:35 PM
mkiisupra Focus, stay with the devil you know.

Eric G
08-26-2012 08:52 PM
mikebontoft Meh, we really like to cover most cars anyway..... They both look nice, I think the dart looks a bit better interior wise but I know nothing else of it other than it should be considered "Le Dart"
08-26-2012 08:41 PM
mjb457 Reason I posted wasnt to bash either---just all the reasons you guys like the Focus And why...(comparison on this forum was a mistake),,,,eekss
08-26-2012 03:10 PM
Red Jay 918 thats a question you should ask a friend or family member or something... not a forum filled w/ Focus owners. lol. IMO, it all depends on which car has what features you need/want. at the end of the day regardless of what engine you choose, turbo or N/A... regardless automatic or manual, you end up with a car that should achieve 35+mpg.
08-26-2012 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by FLYLOW View Post
dodge... really??? people are still buying these?
Their trucks are nice, but the cars are crap. Challenger excluded.

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08-26-2012 02:41 PM
FLYLOW dodge... really??? people are still buying these?
08-26-2012 02:26 PM
M_Hops There is a direct comparison over at Car and Driver. I won't tell you which car won.
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