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12-16-2015 05:30 AM
Saimurai
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Originally Posted by Milton View Post
The reason to have a third key is so that if you lose one, you can add another third key without going to the dealer.
If you have only one key you have two choices:
-go to the dealer or a locksmith that can add a new master key
-option two, get your one key cloned (locksmith reads the ID on your one key and then configures your new key to use the same ID).
Option 2 is cheaper, but you have only one master key and a clone. You cannot use these two keys to add a new master.
Yes that was kind of my point. But generally people don't realise that you need two to make a third. So who goes and gets a copy unless they've already lost one? If people knew that if they only had the one key they were screwed then maybe people would go and get a third as soon as they purchase the car but because most people think its like any other key where if you have the one you can always get a copy, then the urgency isn't felt until they are down to one. Its a bit scammy is all.

Thank you for your advice. Option 1 is 85 so im searching for a locksmith. Option 2, over here i havent found anyone yet who can clone the ID outside of the car dealership, they can only cut a new key. Since i've discovered that my car is only worth 300 it makes it difficult for me to justify 85 right now, so close to Christmas. If it ends up being my only option though then obviously its better than being locked out of the car!

Still looking though, in other forums there are car dealerships complaining about the ridiculous charges and stating that they dont do that, so im searching for these guys to go to!

Cheers,
12-15-2015 10:13 PM
Milton
Key Fob Programming How-To

The reason to have a third key is so that if you lose one, you can add another third key without going to the dealer.
If you have only one key you have two choices:
-go to the dealer or a locksmith that can add a new master key
-option two, get your one key cloned (locksmith reads the ID on your one key and then configures your new key to use the same ID).
Option 2 is cheaper, but you have only one master key and a clone. You cannot use these two keys to add a new master.
12-15-2015 07:38 PM
Saimurai
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Originally Posted by sailor View Post
There are separate instructions for adding a third key, but the owner can't do it with only ONE existing key programmed into the car's computer.

Two are required to prove you own it, so someone can't make a copy that works from a loaned key.

That's not the protection it was now that keys can be "cloned", but that was the intent.
Craaaaap.

I was afraid you'd say that.

Yeah i heard that before that the two original keys were needed to code a third. Its a bit dumb though coz why would anyone need a third? Surely the only reason to buy another key is because you only have the one?

Anyway. No worries, thanks for the advice. Ill have another hunt for the missing key, even though we've moved house three times since we lat saw it!
12-15-2015 07:01 PM
sailor There are separate instructions for adding a third key, but the owner can't do it with only ONE existing key programmed into the car's computer.

Two are required to prove you own it, so someone can't make a copy that works from a loaned key.

That's not the protection it was now that keys can be "cloned", but that was the intent.
12-15-2015 06:17 PM
Saimurai
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Originally Posted by sailor View Post
You're in Europe, with a different key & fob setup.

This thread is for U.S./Canada where the fob is separate from the key, and this programming ONLY works for the fob functions (Locking,panic alarm, trunk open).

Programming the chipped key to work for the ignition when you already have two existing ones is possible, but it take a different procedure.

Fob programming alone only requires all fobs you want to use to be present, as they need to be done all at once.

Sounds like you only did the fob programming, not KEY programming since you do NOT have the two existing keys required for that separate procedure.
Oh im sorry, i read the other posts that appeared to be Uk responses, plus the coding worked for the locking and unlocking just not the ignition.

So how would i encode for the ignition? one of the keys is the original key, which is why its still starting the car.
12-15-2015 04:16 PM
sailor You're in Europe, with a different key & fob setup.

This thread is for U.S./Canada where the fob is separate from the key, and this programming ONLY works for the fob functions (Locking,panic alarm, trunk open).

Programming the chipped key to work for the ignition when you already have two existing ones is possible, but it take a different procedure.

Fob programming alone only requires all fobs you want to use to be present, as they need to be done all at once.

Sounds like you only did the fob programming, not KEY programming since you do NOT have the two existing keys required for that separate procedure.
12-15-2015 12:22 PM
Saimurai
:( doesn't work for me.

Hi there, im experiencing similar issues to many of the other posters here, finally got both keys to unlock the door (1 key is the original guts in a new shell, 2nd key is all new from Amazon) but the new key won't start the engine. Also, when i try the new key (the red LED above the clock continuously flashes) then the old key again, the old key wont turn the engine over for a while, (Red LED continues to flash). Eventually the old key does switch the car on again once the LED stops flashing.

Just spoke with Lisburn Ford Dealer and they quote $85 to recode the keys.

Its a 2000 Ford Focus Estate, TDDI.

Any thoughts? Tried all the steps mentioned. The transponder chip inside the new key is different to the one in the old. The old one being like a long skinny bulb, the new one looking more like a plastic microchip.
07-09-2015 07:15 PM
Shagie
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Originally Posted by SD_ZTW View Post
The procedure is a little different for 2000-2006 vs. 2007-2011.

Sit in car, doors closed:

2000-2006

1. Turn the ignition from "Off" to "Run" four times in six seconds. Key stops in "Run" position on fourth cycle.

2. Turn the ignition to "Off." The car will chime to confirm that you've done everything correctly so far. Key is still in ignition

3. Press any key on the first remote you're programming. Perform this within 20 seconds of Step 2. The car will chime to confirm programming.

4. Repeat Step 3 with each additional remote*, all within the 20 seconds. Remove key from ignition.

*The remotes should be inside the vehicle during the procedure (eg. all on front seat.)

2007-2011

1. Turn the ignition from "Off" to "Run" eight times in ten seconds. Key stays in "Run" position on eighth cycle. The locks will cycle to confirm that you've entered programming mode.

2. Press any key on the first remote you're programming. Perform this within 20 seconds of Step 1. The door locks will cycle to confirm programming.

3. Repeat Step 2 with each additional remote, within 20 seconds of the prior programming. The locks will cycle after each successful programming.

4. Turn the key to the "Off" position to exit the programming mode. Remove key from ignition.
Now I have two pads for my wife's car. Thanks guys, love this forum.
01-27-2015 12:36 AM
MarsSVTF I got my self 2 new key remotes on ebay and they work great! $14!
10-30-2013 10:16 AM
steve08 will this operation cancel the first key. thanks
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