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11-02-2012 12:19 AM
TiStick
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Originally Posted by VOLDAR View Post
Thank you TiStick . So you decided to "pierce" the "front" of the air box (yes, I was meaning the air box). Nice !
Go to THIS thread for the story
11-01-2012 11:53 PM
VOLDAR Thank you TiStick . So you decided to "pierce" the "front" of the air box (yes, I was meaning the air box). Nice !
11-01-2012 11:44 PM
TiStick
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Originally Posted by VOLDAR View Post
Has anyone kept the "box" with the K&N filter ? If yes, how does the K&N filter fit in ? Do you have any photos ?
You mean the factory air box and the K&N? If so, here is mine covered by an Outerwears pre-filter

11-01-2012 11:37 PM
VOLDAR Has anyone kept the "box" with the K&N filter ? If yes, how does the K&N filter fit in ? Do you have any photos ?
08-11-2012 06:35 PM
dyn085
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Originally Posted by Some Guy From NY View Post
I installed the K&N drop in filter yesterday and I actually think my car is QUIETER now than with the stock filter. With the stock filter when accelerating from a stop the car always seemed to hesitate a bit and then i would hear air rushing into the filter. With the K&N drop in, I no longer have the hesitation and it is just a smooth take off and with very minimal noise coming from the intake, less than with the stock filter. It feels/sounds like the car is breathing easier now.
The OEM filter is horrible for flow. I feel really bad for those individuals that are still runnung them on 87 octane in the hot temps with the ac running
08-11-2012 06:30 PM
dyn085 Lol, it's all good I decided to create the dyno thread to try and consolidate some graphs, but I don't think it's much easier to read.

The best numbers I've gotten were from the K&N, Snorkel delete, and ram-ish mod at around 70. That was the first round at the dyno. My assumption was that it was the filter. After going back to re-test in multiple configurations-that is when I found out that there had to be a combination in order to see the good numbers. All subsequent runs have been in higher temperatures, so I am topping out a bit earlier.

If I still have access to the dyno then I will document some more later in the year once temps cool down. Any more at theae temps is pretty much worthless to me.

Sorry, a bit off topic...
08-11-2012 06:28 PM
Some Guy From NY I installed the K&N drop in filter yesterday and I actually think my car is QUIETER now than with the stock filter. With the stock filter when accelerating from a stop the car always seemed to hesitate a bit and then i would hear air rushing into the filter. With the K&N drop in, I no longer have the hesitation and it is just a smooth take off and with very minimal noise coming from the intake, less than with the stock filter. It feels/sounds like the car is breathing easier now.
08-11-2012 05:07 PM
VOLDAR
I read again your thread and now I get it (I hope): You dyno-ed the car (stock) with OEM filter on, then switched to the K&N filter and did the mods (snorkel delete and ram-ish thing) and you got the final dyno results. If so, I don't see why your numbers should not be good. All has started from my misunderstanding; I thought you dyno-ed the car with the snorkel delete and ram-ish thing on it and the OEM filter (stock), then you changed the filter and you got those 10+ HP/TQ numbers.
Sorry for everything - it was not my intention - I am a little slow because it is too damn hot/humid here in the North.
08-11-2012 03:17 PM
dyn085 No, I'm not trying to argue either. What I'm saying is that there is no gain by a filter swap. More work has to go into the system (just cutting) in order to get the gains. All a filter swap will do is give you throttle response. That is what I found and tested in my dyno thread. I think (could be wrong) that I also posted that info here.

I am currently exhaust restricted. I am flowing as much air into the engine as possible. I found this out with my dyno of the Newmission mod.
08-11-2012 02:15 PM
VOLDAR dyn085,

I want to underline again one thing: It is not that I don't believe you not doing a well calibrated dyno, the numbers are those who seem to be too high for a simple filter change.

If the gains are true, then everyone who's thinking going for a Steeda, FSWerks or K&N intakes are better to change for the K&N filter that will give them a lot more power for 1/3-1/5 of the price. And forget about the exhaust before a tune is out on the market, because adding an exhaust will not make too much of a difference. And maybe this would be right, if someone else would do another dyno with the same setup (K&N filter only, rest is stock) and comes close to these numbers. I ordered a K&N Intake and once I will install it in the car, I'll try to dyno it and post my numbers.

P.S. I stop here anything else because I don't want to argue wether they are good or bad numbers, because it is not my intention. The most important thing is that we love our cars and enjoy them !
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