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Today 08:34 PM
sailor C'mon folks, lets tone it down here.

Tom, you know better for sure!

Makes no sense to jump on someone who gave a shot to a car that SHOULD have handled his local driving, but in the end did NOT. Steep hills were the downfall there, not even the traffic it could also see at times.

charlie's right and Getrag agrees, the dry DCT will never handle the same severe loads their wet DCT can take.

No way to know now, but his particular car and the use it had to survive to be practical might NOT have been one that your tuning would have had much effect on. Those hills are tricky to handle with a stick at all, miss a shift by a little and you end up stopped. So one hiccup from a DCT and you're in trouble, not what you want from an "automatic".
Today 07:42 PM
charlie g
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
All I hear anymore is WA WA WA and reasons you dont like dry clutches , You KNEW of all the issue working on the DCT where you worked at Ford yet bought one anyway

It isnt the design its the software , I have told you that many times , people have posted where my tune worked but you blow that off thinking you know best , but you dont know what your talking about

Tom
screw SCT! I have their BS software at my shop. seems so many dick heads running shops think because they have it they are the only fix. SCT fails to do a lot reason I don't push it nor will I sell it to my customers.
there are 13 dct models being used in 24 car models. tractors, yes john deer and Honda motor cycle the worlds not ready for them in city driving

4 ford dealers brought them to me to be done, bench fix!! and well I know this will get me banned forever and I give 2 s--ts. so take your bs tuning soft wear and johnny reb attitude and stick it where the sun no longer shines.
Today 06:45 PM
1turbofocus All I hear anymore is WA WA WA and reasons you dont like dry clutches , You KNEW of all the issue working on the DCT where you worked at Ford yet bought one anyway

It isnt the design its the software , I have told you that many times , people have posted where my tune worked but you blow that off thinking you know best , but you dont know what your talking about

Tom
Today 12:20 AM
charlie g one would sure think a CPO car with almost new updated parts in it and have only 25k would be ok. and safe to buy or in my case even up swap .
guess there are more reasons LUK has upgraded the clutch kits to a even higher letter H I think it's up to now,
my issue is these dry disc trannies do not work in areas where the owner has to deal with a lot of stop and go traffic they fail at higher rates in these areas then where people have to do almost all highway.
my first dealing with them was with vw when they started with theirs in 2002 we had issues mostly programing and a few where snap rings failed that held the clutch packs together. not like every car builder using a dry disc unit is having, this trans is simply not made for a city like driver
go back close to 100 years. dry clutches have never been able to handle heat from being slid or ridden with out burning up and tearing up and that what many car makers are doing trying to make a dry clutch act like a tc. imm that won't ever work
do we hear as much about problems with wet clutch units? NO WE don't. the fluid cools them down just like HUDSON's back in the late 40 and early 50's with a wet oiled clutch that out lasted most dry ones
Yesterday 10:36 PM
1turbofocus
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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post
I was working in a ford dealer bench fixing them in 12 till in march of 15 when I fully retired , .
Now wait , you worked at a Ford Dealership , Knowing all the issue there was with the DCT and still bought one ????????????

Now you want to whine about the DCT issues with your DCT , you got everything you knew about whats the big deal???

I knew the issues when I bought my first DCT , To get on here now and complain because my DCT has all the issues I knew about before buying it would be insane

Tom
Yesterday 08:23 PM
sailor OK, so you weren't an innocent (grin).

Only meant it as a general observation, letters that went out to 2012 owners never made it to people who didn't buy until later years, and the same for others that went out as the warranty extensions were made.
Yesterday 03:52 AM
charlie g
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Originally Posted by sailor View Post
Gotta remember that folks like Fabio and charlie g didn't come into this in '12 or '13 - got into one in '15 after most of the hooraw and info. was already getting stale and FORD had still not ever changed official info. from the original marketing disaster of not mentioning much about differences.

Promoted as smother & quicker shifting, no mention of type and different behaviors unless trouble hit - then the old discredited memo about the differences comes out.

"Discredited" only because of excessive uses to cover any complaints, often before determining the severity of symptoms.

How many models have an equivalent resource to this Forum?

The number is small and limited, with certain brands that already had owners groups leading the way. Average consumer would have no idea this resource even exists, and without the enthusiast members who started it based on the original model it wouldn't be here for the MkIII owners.
didn't get into them till 15!! rodger! just so you know I was working in a ford dealer bench fixing them in 12 till in march of 15 when I fully retired , I swapped my 12 v6 performance pack, mustang even for that focus as a fill in till I could make up my mind on what brand new car to buy for myself only because I didn't want to pull that made in china getrag mt82 out for a 3rd set of made in china blocker rings for 2nd and 3rd and a 2nd dual mass flywheel
service history on that focus showed it had a new C clutch in it. and a new TCM they still failed.
07-23-2016 08:23 PM
1turbofocus I understand that and agree , Before I go to buy anything I do " Ford Focus Issues "

Just bought a table saw and put in " Sears Table Saw issues "

The reviews I saw and there was thousands of them show all kinds of DCT issues and complaints going back to early 2012 , It took me all of 30 seconds to find them and in 5 min of reading would of made me do even more reading , questioning my decision of thinking of buying a Ford Focus DCT

People in this day and time cant say well Ford Dealer should of told me about the DCT , You have to look and research

Tom
07-23-2016 07:14 PM
sailor Gotta remember that folks like Fabio and charlie g didn't come into this in '12 or '13 - got into one in '15 after most of the hooraw and info. was already getting stale and FORD had still not ever changed official info. from the original marketing disaster of not mentioning much about differences.

Promoted as smother & quicker shifting, no mention of type and different behaviors unless trouble hit - then the old discredited memo about the differences comes out.

"Discredited" only because of excessive uses to cover any complaints, often before determining the severity of symptoms.

How many models have an equivalent resource to this Forum?

The number is small and limited, with certain brands that already had owners groups leading the way. Average consumer would have no idea this resource even exists, and without the enthusiast members who started it based on the original model it wouldn't be here for the MkIII owners.
07-23-2016 06:37 PM
1turbofocus
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Originally Posted by Fabio0716 View Post
First part I agree with you. Second part I received ABSOLUTELY nothing from ford. No email, mail, nada. I went to the dealership and the Service manager was reluctant to inform me on the Latest TSB even when I mentioned it to him. He acted surprised.
Because your dealer didnt do there job and didnt know doesnt mean it was a secret , Maybe change dealer to one thats on the ball , some Ford dealers just suck !

Tom
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