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Today 06:01 PM
Downunder
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Originally Posted by TKG26 View Post
So it's a great car for one single person. Wife commutes to work 5days a week I occasionally drive at night and on weekends the family of five hop in it. Guess it's never gonna learn our habits
From the adaptive learning aspect of the gearbox it is no different from most auto boxes where they all have adaptive learning where it adapts to the person who drives it the most. How well it is done and designed by the manufacturer is the key.

I guess one day they will make them smart enough to automatically change the driving settings just like some cars do for the sound system and seat positions etc to the person who is driving it for the average car driver. Some luxury cars have driving preferences for different drivers.

There are some absolute horror stories about the current auto boxes for a number of manufacturers, DCT, torque converter and CVT. Let's hope they can get it right for at least the main driver in the near future.
Today 04:51 PM
TKG26 So it's a great car for one single person. Wife commutes to work 5days a week I occasionally drive at night and on weekends the family of five hop in it. Guess it's never gonna learn our habits
Today 04:47 PM
Downunder
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Originally Posted by Wades99 View Post
Thats good to hear! Its such a nice car to drive so its a shame that it has these dct issues. Will post any updates or issues I have breaking in the new transmission ;-)
Have fun shifting through the gears on those great mountain drives you have on the north island.

I forgot to mention that the other owner I was talking about car also purchased second hand so his starting experience from this perspective was the same as you.

One good/bad things about the DCT is that it learns what to do from how you drive it, especially in the first 1,000 km after the TCM reset. If the gearbox is taught bad shifts, bad things to do to the gearbox that's what it does. Also on the positive side it can be taught to shift well. Especially if you have select shift, put it into manual mode and take some time to teach the proper shift points. Like the link I added in the earlier post (excluding the people who have mechanical problems) they found the car did perform better once they understood it was a manual gearbox with a computer etc to change the gears.

For example one of the complaints people have is the DCT shifting into a higher gear during turning and the car pausing during the turn. eg trying to enter traffic with the car in 4th at 1400 revs at 30km/20 mph is a real pain. If you were driving a manual you would have shifted up into a lower gear eg in town into 2 or 3 and you would have the engine spinning at higher revs in its power zone. You can actually teach the gearbox to be in the right gear for a turn and also you would like to apply power to drive through the corner. This is something new to learn if you have come from a car which does not handle as well as the Focus. This car can handle and you can actually drive it around corners and apply the power as it turns!
Today 09:11 AM
ChrisFocus14
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Originally Posted by Wades99 View Post
Thats good to hear! Its such a nice car to drive so its a shame that it has these dct issues. Will post any updates or issues I have breaking in the new transmission ;-)
Thanks for your updates, sounds like we had similar situations coming from the Mazda, this really does feel like an upgrade.

I just got mine back from the shop as well, all they did was a re-flash but the shudder is now VERY minimal (almost unnoticeable) and the grinding is gone. I usually ALWAYS heard the grinding at this one spot by my work, and did not hear it this morning. I'm concerned that, as others have said, the flash works for a bit then it's back to normal. If it comes back, I will demand part replacements like you just got, and if that doesn't fix it i'm going to have to find a way out of this car. Such a shame, I really do love it. Fingers crossed that the re-flash worked, but i'm not convinced it will stay this perfect.

Please keep us posted on how the new transmission and parts work out, as that may be my next step.
Today 05:59 AM
Wades99
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Originally Posted by Downunder View Post
This means you now get the chance to run in the gearbox/clutch like you want to. Have fun over the next 1000KM breaking it in.

There was an earlier post about somebody who had similar problems like you. He had problems in the beginning and started to drive it like they recommend here

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/m...look-here.html

and after awhile it fixed itself. I think he drove it over 10,000 miles and he said it got better and better.
Thats good to hear! Its such a nice car to drive so its a shame that it has these dct issues. Will post any updates or issues I have breaking in the new transmission ;-)
Today 03:34 AM
Downunder
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Originally Posted by Wades99 View Post
Got my car back today. They replaced the transmission and clutch. Feels way better already. Will see how it goes this time!
This means you now get the chance to run in the gearbox/clutch like you want to. Have fun over the next 1000KM breaking it in.

There was an earlier post about somebody who had similar problems like you. He had problems in the beginning and started to drive it like they recommend here

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/m...look-here.html

and after awhile it fixed itself. I think he drove it over 10,000 miles and he said it got better and better.
Today 03:13 AM
Wades99
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Originally Posted by Wades99 View Post
I got my 2014 Focus 6spd powershift in March this year which had 30k km on the clock. It was in very nice condition and drove really well and seemed like a nice upgrade from my 04 Mazda3. It was still covered by the 3 year new car warranty so was very pleased with my purchase.
After a couple months I started to notice a shuddering while accelerating at low speeds or from a standstill. The whole vehicle would kind of vibrate between gear shifts. So I got onto google and searched ford focus shuddering and then I find all these forums and news articles about it . I did read some of the topics about tips on driving the dual clutch transmission which I thought was working but it still comes back. It has slowly go worse and you can even start to notice it in the higher gear shifts.
I have it booked in next week for the Ford dealer to take a look. So hopefully something can be done.
After reading all these posts its starting to make me think I should have stayed with a Mazda3
Got my car back today. They replaced the transmission and clutch. Feels way better already. Will see how it goes this time!
Yesterday 05:01 PM
ChrisFocus14
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Originally Posted by ChrisFocus14 View Post
The last week or two, the shuddering has continued but also turned into an ungodly grinding noise, which is worse going up a hill or turning, usually shifting between 1st and 2nd gear or 2-3. No other time does it make the noise, and it usually happens when the car has warmed up a bit (after 20 mins or so of driving).

I'm pretty upset since I traded a car I couldn't trust for another one. My car is scheduled to be looked at at the dealer on Monday morning. Had to argue with them for a while about getting a loaner so I could get to work (you know, the whole reason I bought a new car...) but eventually the sales guy got me one. Something tells me this problem won't go away.

I will follow-up with the results, but i'm starting to worry about what kind of lemon I may be stuck with for the next however long, and I haven't even made a payment!!!!!!!! It's ridiculous that Ford puts these cars on the street knowing the issues they have, I can GUARANTEE you that this is why the person who had the car before me traded it in. It is in beautiful condition with only 25k miles, why else would you trade in?

-Chris


Just wanted to do a quick update, they had my car in this morning and seemed to know exactly what I was talking about. They did the flash update, i'm picking it up from the dealership tomorrow morning. They claim there was no leaking in the seals and the clutch looks ok so they didn't replace parts, but I don't believe them. However, this is the first time it's in the shop (new to me) so i'm willing to give them one try. Took some coercing to get a loaner from the sales guy but I got one. Something tells me the grinding will continue after the update.

Wanted to THANK EVERYONE on this thread, as cars aren't my specialty and this info helped me get ahead of the issue. My biggest concern is that it won't be fixed and i'll be stuck with a problematic car.

Will post an update after driving it for a bit.

Thanks, Chris
Yesterday 02:16 PM
mr_cassandra
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Originally Posted by 12_SESport View Post
Just wanted to update you guys. The tcm was the culprit. Funny enough I just got a recall letter from Ford staying I needed to get my tcm replaced for my issue I had. Unfortunately the shudder is back again. The worst part is I've been paying down this car religiously so I can trade it in and the dealership I went to said they won't take it because they have too many being traded in and because of all the transmission issues these cars are having. It's funny how that Ford dealership a year ago sold me this car telling me it's such a great car and not to worry about the complaints for the transmission because they were unfounded. I went to a second Ford dealership this weekend to be told the same thing except they aIso threw in that even if they did take it on trade that i would not like their offer because they will pay auction price only for these cars. It's sad when I'm trying to give Ford a second chance and they don't care. It's not like they're going to lose money on me buying a new car from them. Sorry my rant is over. I hope others are having better experiences.
How much stuff like this does it take to get owners really, really mad?

said they won't take it because they have too many being traded in and because of all the transmission issues these cars are having. It's funny how that Ford dealership a year ago sold me this car telling me it's such a great car and not to worry about the complaints for the transmission because they were unfounded. I went to a second Ford dealership this weekend to be told the same thing except they aIso threw in that even if they did take it on trade that i would not like their offer because they will pay auction price only for these cars.

This directly conflicts with the many discussions on these forums about how this problem was limited AND ONLY AFFECTING A SMALL AMOUNT OF PRODUCTION.
Yesterday 02:11 PM
FordService
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Originally Posted by 12_SESport View Post
Just wanted to update you guys. The tcm was the culprit. Funny enough I just got a recall letter from Ford staying I needed to get my tcm replaced for my issue I had. Unfortunately the shudder is back again. The worst part is I've been paying down this car religiously so I can trade it in and the dealership I went to said they won't take it because they have too many being traded in and because of all the transmission issues these cars are having. It's funny how that Ford dealership a year ago sold me this car telling me it's such a great car and not to worry about the complaints for the transmission because they were unfounded. I went to a second Ford dealership this weekend to be told the same thing except they aIso threw in that even if they did take it on trade that i would not like their offer because they will pay auction price only for these cars. It's sad when I'm trying to give Ford a second chance and they don't care. It's not like they're going to lose money on me buying a new car from them. Sorry my rant is over. I hope others are having better experiences.

Thanks for keeping us all updated. I want to look into some options on my end. What's your updated mileage?

Meagan
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