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Yesterday 09:36 AM
1turbofocus Fair enough

Tom
07-25-2016 11:12 PM
sailor "Worked on DCT for Ford" implies a lot more than mentioned, it's not like he was involved with corporate. You claim more working on DCT for Ford than he did (fixing cars for Dealers).

Retirement age folks in particular can desire something that WORKS, not needing repair/warranty/aftermarket fixes. Did you catch that he also just came off another that needed a replacement engine? (1.6 Ecoboost)

If I was in his position I'd rather spend time on the toys than deal with the daily driver having troubles. Collector cars (Ford & Ford based) and a Charter Boat? Who wants to deal with the DD appliance causing grief?

Ford loyalty through two disasters in a row, I don't blame him for trying something else.

"People all over the mountains" might never see the same type roads as in his neighborhood. Some unique & severe ones there, not even passable for all vehicles.

How long did you work on the DCT tuning before claiming you could fix most? If it was all that simple why wasn't your tune promoted for shudder within the first year after SCT software was avail.? Considering you do it for a living, should have a real advantage over anyone who just has it "available".

Obviously YOU fit your comment to him "clearly you dont understand or know how to use the Advantage software" or you could have done it in the little time he had available. (but why should he want to on a new to him used car under warranty?)

We all know you could have a thousand HP avail. without breaking the trans.. All depends on control & use, and once you start spinning tires does the power avail. really matter? Too much power applied too suddenly can break anything, and it takes very little in the correct circumstances.

I don't want to get into it here so deeply, but there's a time to back off on criticizing people.
07-25-2016 10:20 PM
1turbofocus
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C'mon folks, lets tone it down here.

Tom, you know better for sure!

Makes no sense to jump on someone who gave a shot to a car that SHOULD have handled his local driving, but in the end did NOT. Steep hills were the downfall there, not even the traffic it could also see at times.

charlie's right and Getrag agrees, the dry DCT will never handle the same severe loads their wet DCT can take.

No way to know now, but his particular car and the use it had to survive to be practical might NOT have been one that your tuning would have had much effect on. Those hills are tricky to handle with a stick at all, miss a shift by a little and you end up stopped. So one hiccup from a DCT and you're in trouble, not what you want from an "automatic".
He never tried my tune , Now we find out that he worked on DCT for Ford and to add insult to injury he also has the SCT software and could of fixed the problem him self if he had tried

I have Customers that live all over in the Mountains and no issues with there DCT and my tune

A DCT is holding 240HP to the wheels for a year now with Turbo thats about 260 at Flywheel far more then its stated to hold and still with stock clutches , The DCT trans it self isnt the issue , 2nd one now what 3 months no issues either , Getreg said the SVT Trans wouldnt hold much yet we know they now hold 3+ times the advertised TQ

Come on Sailor , Think about it , he knew for 2 years the DCT had issues and bought a DCT anyway , Now we find out he had SCT software and could of at least tried to fix the DCT issues and didnt , Could of bought my Tune with a 98% success rate. He complains about the DCT more then anyone , he doesnt have a leg to stand on

It isnt like some of the other guys that just didnt know , those I feel for

Yes I know better , I apologize for the Wa Wa Wa but stand behind the rest

Tom
07-25-2016 10:08 PM
1turbofocus
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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post
screw SCT! I have their BS software at my shop. seems so many dick heads running shops think because they have it they are the only fix. SCT fails to do a lot reason I don't push it nor will I sell it to my customers.
there are 13 dct models being used in 24 car models. tractors, yes john deer and Honda motor cycle the worlds not ready for them in city driving

4 ford dealers brought them to me to be done, bench fix!! and well I know this will get me banned forever and I give 2 s--ts. so take your bs tuning soft wear and johnny reb attitude and stick it where the sun no longer shines.
Then clearly you dont understand or know how to use the Advantage software

Tom
07-25-2016 08:34 PM
sailor C'mon folks, lets tone it down here.

Tom, you know better for sure!

Makes no sense to jump on someone who gave a shot to a car that SHOULD have handled his local driving, but in the end did NOT. Steep hills were the downfall there, not even the traffic it could also see at times.

charlie's right and Getrag agrees, the dry DCT will never handle the same severe loads their wet DCT can take.

No way to know now, but his particular car and the use it had to survive to be practical might NOT have been one that your tuning would have had much effect on. Those hills are tricky to handle with a stick at all, miss a shift by a little and you end up stopped. So one hiccup from a DCT and you're in trouble, not what you want from an "automatic".
07-25-2016 07:42 PM
charlie g
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Originally Posted by 1turbofocus View Post
All I hear anymore is WA WA WA and reasons you dont like dry clutches , You KNEW of all the issue working on the DCT where you worked at Ford yet bought one anyway

It isnt the design its the software , I have told you that many times , people have posted where my tune worked but you blow that off thinking you know best , but you dont know what your talking about

Tom
screw SCT! I have their BS software at my shop. seems so many dick heads running shops think because they have it they are the only fix. SCT fails to do a lot reason I don't push it nor will I sell it to my customers.
there are 13 dct models being used in 24 car models. tractors, yes john deer and Honda motor cycle the worlds not ready for them in city driving

4 ford dealers brought them to me to be done, bench fix!! and well I know this will get me banned forever and I give 2 s--ts. so take your bs tuning soft wear and johnny reb attitude and stick it where the sun no longer shines.
07-25-2016 06:45 PM
1turbofocus All I hear anymore is WA WA WA and reasons you dont like dry clutches , You KNEW of all the issue working on the DCT where you worked at Ford yet bought one anyway

It isnt the design its the software , I have told you that many times , people have posted where my tune worked but you blow that off thinking you know best , but you dont know what your talking about

Tom
07-25-2016 12:20 AM
charlie g one would sure think a CPO car with almost new updated parts in it and have only 25k would be ok. and safe to buy or in my case even up swap .
guess there are more reasons LUK has upgraded the clutch kits to a even higher letter H I think it's up to now,
my issue is these dry disc trannies do not work in areas where the owner has to deal with a lot of stop and go traffic they fail at higher rates in these areas then where people have to do almost all highway.
my first dealing with them was with vw when they started with theirs in 2002 we had issues mostly programing and a few where snap rings failed that held the clutch packs together. not like every car builder using a dry disc unit is having, this trans is simply not made for a city like driver
go back close to 100 years. dry clutches have never been able to handle heat from being slid or ridden with out burning up and tearing up and that what many car makers are doing trying to make a dry clutch act like a tc. imm that won't ever work
do we hear as much about problems with wet clutch units? NO WE don't. the fluid cools them down just like HUDSON's back in the late 40 and early 50's with a wet oiled clutch that out lasted most dry ones
07-24-2016 10:36 PM
1turbofocus
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Originally Posted by charlie g View Post
I was working in a ford dealer bench fixing them in 12 till in march of 15 when I fully retired , .
Now wait , you worked at a Ford Dealership , Knowing all the issue there was with the DCT and still bought one ????????????

Now you want to whine about the DCT issues with your DCT , you got everything you knew about whats the big deal???

I knew the issues when I bought my first DCT , To get on here now and complain because my DCT has all the issues I knew about before buying it would be insane

Tom
07-24-2016 08:23 PM
sailor OK, so you weren't an innocent (grin).

Only meant it as a general observation, letters that went out to 2012 owners never made it to people who didn't buy until later years, and the same for others that went out as the warranty extensions were made.
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