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08-19-2015 09:06 PM
Truth in Ruin
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Originally Posted by dyn085 View Post
That math assumes that the mpg's are the same between octanes, and they're not unless you're doing nothing but highway miles. I did the math on my Mk3 and found that I was actually saving money (admittedly not much at all though) by using 93, given my commute.

Maybe the reason you're selling crappy parts to members is to cover that $532 deficit? http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/v...st-seller.html
Ohhh buuuuuurn!
08-19-2015 08:26 PM
dyn085
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Originally Posted by NickCornell View Post
Yes. I have 65,000 of my own miles on the car. 55,000 of those were with strictly 93 octane. 93 octane in PA is about 30 cents more per gallon than 87.

So, 55,000 miles divided by my average hand calculated mpg of 31mpg= 1774 gallons of fuel. For a total extra 30 cent cost of 532 dollars in 3 years.

I won no races, my car runs the same in these last 10k miles, and I effectively pissed away 532 dollars at the pump, or just shy of 180 bucks a year.

So in the end, is 15 dollars a month a big deal? Nope, but it's extra money I probably had no need to spend on a vehicle that operates perfectly on standard grade gasoline.
That math assumes that the mpg's are the same between octanes, and they're not unless you're doing nothing but highway miles. I did the math on my Mk3 and found that I was actually saving money (admittedly not much at all though) by using 93, given my commute.

Maybe the reason you're selling crappy parts to members is to cover that $532 deficit? http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/v...st-seller.html
08-19-2015 07:15 PM
papaacer
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Originally Posted by dyn085 View Post
Which goes right back to the continual 'test the fuels that are local/convenient to you' advice. Mountune constantly preaches Arco.

A lot of Costco's actually have really good fuel as well.
I agree with the bolded. I think the best ones that have worked for me locally are Shell and Costco. Costco is normally cheaper too.
08-19-2015 07:12 PM
dyn085 Which goes right back to the continual 'test the fuels that are local/convenient to you' advice. Mountune constantly preaches Arco.

A lot of Costco's actually have really good fuel as well.
08-19-2015 07:00 PM
papaacer Not around here, all of the truck guys, and subie guys, and just general car people put Arco pretty low on the gas station totem pole.
08-19-2015 06:52 PM
dyn085
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Originally Posted by NickCornell View Post
Yep you're right. I know nothing.

As a matter of fact some may say running 112 leaded race gas will help you on an oem tune. Heck, maybe you can sneak us some or that helicopter military fuel.
You're the one that makes that race gas claim, not anyone else. And you definitely don't want to run JP8 because that's basically diesel. I've already explained how the OAR system works and the differences between someone that drives in-town versus highway regarding the standard octane fuels back on post #1710.

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That is true, Nick. I think for me the grade doesn't matter as much as where I pump. Pumping at Arco, I notice the gas quality is utterly terrible compared to Chevron or Shell. When I pump at Arco, I notice my tank depletes faster than when I pump at the higher tier stations.
Arco is probably the most highly rated fuel in the FiST community. It's also a top-tier brand.
08-19-2015 06:27 PM
papaacer That is true, Nick. I think for me the grade doesn't matter as much as where I pump. Pumping at Arco, I notice the gas quality is utterly terrible compared to Chevron or Shell. When I pump at Arco, I notice my tank depletes faster than when I pump at the higher tier stations.
08-19-2015 06:20 PM
NickCornell
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
Is that opinion based on any first hand experience?
Yes. I have 65,000 of my own miles on the car. 55,000 of those were with strictly 93 octane. 93 octane in PA is about 30 cents more per gallon than 87.

So, 55,000 miles divided by my average hand calculated mpg of 31mpg= 1774 gallons of fuel. For a total extra 30 cent cost of 532 dollars in 3 years.

I won no races, my car runs the same in these last 10k miles, and I effectively pissed away 532 dollars at the pump, or just shy of 180 bucks a year.

So in the end, is 15 dollars a month a big deal? Nope, but it's extra money I probably had no need to spend on a vehicle that operates perfectly on standard grade gasoline.
08-19-2015 06:13 PM
NickCornell
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Originally Posted by dyn085 View Post
Coming from the guy that still thinks 3k mile oil changes are necessary and has no clue about basically anything on the Mk3?

Lulz.
Yep you're right. I know nothing.

As a matter of fact some may say running 112 leaded race gas will help you on an oem tune. Heck, maybe you can sneak us some or that helicopter military fuel.
08-19-2015 06:08 AM
scott7278
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
My opinion about octane rating for the Mk3 Focus is that it is a subject that has been beat to death in several threads going back at least three years.

Much of the debate has been about whether "premium fuel will provide improved performance" with the 2.0L TiVCT engine as stated in the 2012 Owner's Manual, but not in later years. If you don't want to take the time to read what has already been written () then I'd suggest that you run a few tanks of 87 octane and a few of 91 under similar conditions (weather, traffic, driving style) and decide for yourself which you prefer. I skipped that step and went with "User_B".

Even if most of the time the higher octane makes no difference, it's worth it to me for the times it does. I drive so little these days (1,500 miles in my Focus in the past year) that the higher cost for premium is not significant for me, and I'm more interested in having fun when I do drive than maximizing MPGs. Especially since it gets 50% better fuel mileage (without even trying) than my wife's car and both of the two older cars I bought it to replace.

As for the Owner's Manual, I'm not aware of any changes to the engine from 2012 thru 2014 that would make the statement "Premium fuel will provide improved performance" stop being true. I think Ford just removed it from later versions of the manual because it was causing confusion. The people who would have been confused by it now are not, and the rest of us do our own research.
They put the "better performance" statement back in the manual for 2015...
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