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Yesterday 03:23 PM
Ti/12
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Originally Posted by Truth in Ruin View Post
You guys have a lot of E fuel up here. I was at a gas station that had, E85, E50, and E30. I've never seen that before. PS- driving thru Saint Paul during rush hour sucks!!! I'm in Duluth right now, and have to drive thru it tomorrow to get home... Boooooooo!
It sure does suck and Minneapolis is just as bad or not worse! Here in Minnesota we are too cheap to pay for good maintenance, so everything goes to hell at once and cost a ton more to replace!?
09-03-2015 07:01 PM
Truth in Ruin
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Originally Posted by Ti/12 View Post
Here in Minnesota the gas is E10 and my 2012 didn't run "right" on 87, so i tried mid grade 89 and it ran better, finally for the last 2 years I have been running 91 and the better performance is very noticeable; better fuel economy, smoother running, and better throttle response. This improvement convinced me to do the intake, exhaust, and tuning mods I currently have. Now I have even more Zoom-Zoom!
You guys have a lot of E fuel up here. I was at a gas station that had, E85, E50, and E30. I've never seen that before. PS- driving thru Saint Paul during rush hour sucks!!! I'm in Duluth right now, and have to drive thru it tomorrow to get home... Boooooooo!
09-03-2015 02:41 PM
Ti/12 Here in Minnesota the gas is E10 and my 2012 didn't run "right" on 87, so i tried mid grade 89 and it ran better, finally for the last 2 years I have been running 91 and the better performance is very noticeable; better fuel economy, smoother running, and better throttle response. This improvement convinced me to do the intake, exhaust, and tuning mods I currently have. Now I have even more Zoom-Zoom!
09-02-2015 12:00 PM
rebelx
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post

Party pooper. ;)

I think there's still enough "YMMV" effect going on for the debate to continue for quite a while, justified or not.
Haha :)

I'm definitely feeling a placebo/YMMV effect, so there appears in my three days of driving on 91 that there is a measurable impact, although not sure just yet if it's worth the constant upcharge at the pump.
09-02-2015 08:42 AM
TboneZX3 Yeah, I don't find any performance advantages of 91 octane E0 vs 91 octane E10. 93 octane E10 performs very well in my car.
Fuel mileage is better with E0, but it's also more expensive. I don't know if the fuel mileage improvement is enough to offset the increased expense.

I buy E0, but only for outdoor power equipment due to storage needs. The only clear disadvantage I see with E10 is water absorption over time, which is not an issue with my car since fuel is refreshed at least every two weeks.
09-02-2015 08:12 AM
TooOld
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Originally Posted by scott7278 View Post
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I'm confident we don't get a choice because no one who cared even a little about performance would ever choose E-10.
Colleague's BMW M4 seems to be fine on E-10. Granted, 93 octane E-10, but E-10 none the less.
09-02-2015 06:52 AM
TboneZX3 Columbia also has Hyvee stations with E0, and KC has a few Quiktrips with E0. I guess I'm lucky to have a single E0 91 octane pump in the Cape area.
09-01-2015 10:09 PM
scott7278 The Greater St. Louis Area is E-10 only, no matter what grade, so I always make sure to fill up at Gasper's Travel Plaza (Shell) in Kingdom City when I'm visiting Columbia or Kansas City - E-0 goodness! So I have to drive ~100 miles to get better performance AND mileage.

I'm confident we don't get a choice because no one who cared even a little about performance would ever choose E-10.
09-01-2015 09:26 PM
sailor Wow, I haven't heard about "Ethyl" since back when unleaded was phased in and we got the small nozzles so only the unleaded ones would fit in the new capped filler tubes.

Assume the cavedog meant non-ethyl as shorthand for ethanol, referring to alcohol content.
09-01-2015 09:12 PM
Arco-Zakus
But the debate is so entertaining.

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Originally Posted by rebelx View Post
... This will settle the debate once and for all. ...

Party pooper. ;)

I think there's still enough "YMMV" effect going on for the debate to continue for quite a while, justified or not.
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