|Yesterday 01:47 PM|
Thanks, Dan50. For a car built in 2013, even if is using a different technology and shifting methodology, you really shouldn't notice the shifting at all. I drive a 2003 Tundra to work and I never notice or think about the shifting. I really never notice it on any car I drive, including the many makes and models I rent for work. These lunging and slipping sensations, even if expected, are simply unacceptable for a new car. Of course, there are clearly issues with the DCT's that are not just normal behavior (hence the 254 pages on this thread). My concern is that the clutch replacement and software fixes are bandaids and not true long-term fixes. Until Ford tells me that the new clutches are redesigned or improved to address the actual problems, and until I drive the vehicle and experience reasonable shifting behavior, I'm not convinced that anything has changed. I've seen enough posts from people who have had their clutch replaced and had the software updated and still have problems, not to have too much confidence at the moment.
I bought this car in February, so I'm less than a year out. My wife drives it most of the time, so this week was the first time I really got to drive it since the clutch replacement. I drove it a good bit for two days and took a number of driving approaches (babied it and also got into it) and it really performs poorly. I will agree that very light driving masks most of the issues, but there is still a good bit of noise during shifting and acceleration. At higher speeds it's fine, but it should be fine at all speeds. The throttle response at <2300 is worse than soggy--- and is noisy/rattly.
I drove an Altima recently, and although they've also had some transmission problems, it was a far superior driving experience (related to acceleration and shifting), with similar gas mileage.
Thanks again for your input.
|Yesterday 01:38 PM|
[QUOTE=Jdeclared a lemon?[/QUOTE]
Each state has its own variation of lemon laws. Some states are more sympathetic to the consumer (CA), while others are more sympathetic to the manufacturer (TX). Not sure about your state.
I am very happy with my '12 ti sedan now. I've had more than a few updates from the dealer & now I like the way it drives. Still quirky at times, but probably more fun to drive than some of its competitors.
I hope you reach a similar outcome.
|Yesterday 01:27 PM|
Whether or not the repair is a "permanent" solution or not sort of depends on the problem. If your DCT is acting up because a leaking seal allows oil or transmission fluid to contaminate the clutches, a new clutch and seals should be a permanent fix, assuming the repair is done correctly (no guarantee of that).
There is a relatively new software update out that has helped some. You may want to be sure you have this update before thinking about another clutch.
These cars do have different behavior from other automatics, even when they're working exactly as intended. First gear is unusually low to extend clutch life, which can result in a "lunging" sensation. The clutch seems to take its engagement strategy cue from initial throttle application, so a launch started as light acceleration and quickly transitioned to harder can induce what feels like clutch slipping. Throttle response at low (I.e. < 2,300 rpm or so) is soggy, which can also make the car feel odd. And, like every other automatic on the market, it's programmed to upshift at low revs for better fuel economy.
Mine seems to work "correctly", but I really don't like it below 20 mph. On the other hand, it's spectacular above that speed.
|Yesterday 11:43 AM|
Regrettably there isn't too much positive to report.
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|Yesterday 10:58 AM|
Still having problems......
I'm assuming by what I've read on some of the pages here (didn't go through them all) that this clutch replacement situation is NOT permanent and is simply going to be an ongoing issue until Ford comes up with something more substantial?? I really regret that I missed seeing these posts before purchasing the car and I'm wondering about the lemon law or other ways of getting out of this car. Will have to go through 4 clutches before it can be declared a lemon?
Anyway, I'm just looking for any updates on where things stand with Ford--- other than the TSB that has them changing out clutches.
|Yesterday 12:41 AM|
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|12-03-2013 06:28 AM|
|bshin352||cant say much for the '12 group. but as for the '13s who have gotten the recent TSB from september(Just a reprogram for me), im nearing 3k since without issue.|
|12-03-2013 01:26 AM|
|12-02-2013 03:36 PM|
They are also still trying to fix the squeek in the right rear corner. This is the 19th (I've counted) time the car is in for the squeek. It's so bad now I can't drown it out with the radio and it happens constantly if you go over 45 mph.
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