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Today 06:34 AM
ThoR294 Mr2764, unfortunately, Ford doesn't give 2 shits that you won't buy a Ford anymore. My girlfriends family has 4 Fords in their driveway and this is by far THE LAST ONE they will buy. She even said that while talking to one of the Ford reps and he pretty much brushed it off and said go ahead buy another vehicle. This car is a ******g joke and I'm about to fix her 03 focus and have her drive that instead of the 14 because of how terrible it drives. When she can get out of this heap we will be looking at anything BUT a Ford product. Good for me because I'm a Chevy guy at heart, but god damn this is terrible.
Today 06:22 AM
mr2764
My Focus Experience

Received: 8/3/2015 12:54 PM
To: Tier 1 Email - CRCFMC
Subject: Vehicle Service Issues

WHAT IS YOUR VEHICLE SALES OR SERVICE ISSUE?:I am currently an owner of a 2013 Ford Focus equipped with the Dual Clutch Power Shift transmission. This vehicle has experienced all the typical issues associated with this transmission since taking ownership (shifting problems, shuddering, poor downshifts, jerking and rolling backwards). This vehicle has been in for service twice and the clutch packs were replaced both times. Within weeks of the fix, the vehicle was back to exhibiting the same behavior. The dealer explained that there is no fix for this and I will have to live with the issue. Ford does not have a solution to the problem and will only keep replacing clutch packs as needed. I feel that my only option is to wait long enough until I can afford to get out of the vehicle loan and get another car. Given that there is no real fix for this issue, I am hesitant to waste any more time having the clutch packs replaced again. I feel that I was knowingly sold a defective product.

WHAT ACTION HAS YOUR DEALER TAKEN TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE?:They have replaced the clutch packs in the transmission on multiple occasions. There is nothing more they can do to resolve this issue. I cannot afford to waste any more of my precious time bringing the vehicle to the dealer for a repair that will not work. You knowingly sold me a defective product.

WHAT ASSISTANCE ARE YOU SEEKING FROM FORD MOTOR COMPANY?:Nothing. You can only replace the defective parts with other defective parts. I'm writing to let you know that I regret purchasing a Ford and will never purchase or recommend a Ford vehicle to anyone based on my experience with owning this vehicle. As a person that grew up in a "Ford" family, I cannot convey my disappointment with the car and with Ford.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Tier 1 Email - CRCFMC <crcfmc@ford.com> wrote:
Hello MICHAEL,

My name is Richelle, I am from Ford`s Customer Relationship Center (CRC). I have reviewed your email regarding the concerns on your 2013 Ford Focus. I apologize for any inconvenience this has caused. I am sure this is a frustrating situation for you, as I would be frustrated as well.

After reviewing your vehicle information, I am showing there is a Customer Satisfaction Program (CSP) which gives extended coverage on your vehicle for the transmission clutch and any issues that you may have.

We regret the circumstances which caused you to write and hope that we will have the opportunity to restore your faith in our products in the future. We have documented your feedback and will share it with the appropriate department.


Thank you for contacting Ford Motor Company.
Sincerely,

Richelle
Customer Relationship Center
Ford Motor Company


Richelle,

Thanks for getting back with me. Unfortunately the Customer Satisfaction Program (CSP) can only replace the defective parts with another defective part. Ford has not produced a replacement part that actually fixes the issue. Their only solution is to replace the defective clutch pack with the same defective clutch pack resulting in the very same symptoms and drive-ability issues. Given that fact, tell me how Ford can restore my faith in a product that cannot be fixed? In addition, please explain to me how Ford can sell a car with a known defect? Unfortunately there is no solution here.

Given the above problem, please explain to me a potential situation in which my faith in your products could be restored?

Respectfully,
08-03-2015 06:35 AM
DaK_Mojave Status update: Got the car back late Friday afternoon, 31JUL. Even before pulling out of the dealership parking lot the car felt different. The steering was tighter, which I liked, and the transmission was quieter. So far we have just did some around town trips, nothing to put any real heat into or load onto the transmission. I did run it in sport mode a few time and only once did it shift by itself from 3-4 before getting anywhere near the red line. This was one of the issues we noted during turn in. The other thing that is gone is the low speed/turn shudder and that lag most of us feel in the transmission during turning. Another thing that was noticed was that pick up from the line has improved greatly. Can't remember the last time the car performed this well.

According to the AV Ford rep the input shafts were replaced, clutches were cleaned along with the replacement of the TPM.

I will say the AV FORD customer service rep was very helpful and did a good job of keeping me informed along the way as did our regional customer service rep. So props to Ford, at least on this level, for their customer service and ensuring this problem is getting corrected.
08-02-2015 05:28 AM
mr_cassandra
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Originally Posted by saireah View Post
Hi! It's great to see a name that I recognize again. :)

I haven't been back here in quite awhile -- after hearing the noise again, I contacted my Ford dealership and they advised me to wait another 1,000 miles for the "clutch break-in period." They did offer to drive around with me once again if I truly wanted it, but mentioned that Ford wouldn't likely do anything to the transmission again until 1,000 miles had passed. Surprisingly, once I hit 500 more miles, I didn't experience the noise any longer. Unfortunately, now, as I near 16,000 miles, I'm hearing it again and I'm experiencing the "jolt" as I did before. It's not nearly as bad, but this is how everything started before.

I did test-drive an Escape and a Jeep Compass (which has horrible reliability reviews, but was very comfortable to sit in -- I won't buy one due to that, though) last weekend. I was convinced I'd be trading in my Focus and getting into an SUV. However, after doing the math and realizing that I only have one year left on my payments ($4,000), I believe the most practical thing to do is to keep my car until my warranty runs out (4 more years -- I purchased the 6 year extended warranty). Or, at least until I have my student loan paid off in 1.5 years. Many people have told me that I should love the car that I drive and to not think twice about jumping into another loan, but I just can't stomach that. Plus, once I hit 35 mph, I love my Focus. My plast-dipping my wheels today is an effort to make my car feel "new" again, so perhaps I'll get the itch to buy an SUV out of my head. It will be nice to be able to pay off some student loan debt once my car is paid off. This is what I'm telling myself. ;)

I do suspect that I'll need to bring it in again within the next few weeks. It's driving much more smoothly than it did the first time that I had issues, but that rattling/grinding noise that I hear shouldn't be happening -- period. It's not consistent, though, but I can pretty much replicate it at least once or twice during a start-to-stop drive when I accelerate at lower speeds.

Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to catch you up. :)
sorry to hear you have been having problems with your transmission. I remember we talked maybe two years ago.
08-01-2015 07:08 PM
saireah
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Originally Posted by Arco-Zakus View Post
It's been nine months since we last heard from you. After not seeing any comments from you for so long I thought you had given up on the car and moved on to someting else. Then I saw in another post that you're back (welcome back) so now I'm really curious how it went getting your transmission fixed. I sure hope your dealer was able to get it back working like it should.

I was also surprised that you did not get a reply to your request for guidance from strix with advice to sell it and never look back. (Nor from mr_cassandra suggesting that you get in touch with the Meagan.)
Hi! It's great to see a name that I recognize again. :)

I haven't been back here in quite awhile -- after hearing the noise again, I contacted my Ford dealership and they advised me to wait another 1,000 miles for the "clutch break-in period." They did offer to drive around with me once again if I truly wanted it, but mentioned that Ford wouldn't likely do anything to the transmission again until 1,000 miles had passed. Surprisingly, once I hit 500 more miles, I didn't experience the noise any longer. Unfortunately, now, as I near 16,000 miles, I'm hearing it again and I'm experiencing the "jolt" as I did before. It's not nearly as bad, but this is how everything started before.

I did test-drive an Escape and a Jeep Compass (which has horrible reliability reviews, but was very comfortable to sit in -- I won't buy one due to that, though) last weekend. I was convinced I'd be trading in my Focus and getting into an SUV. However, after doing the math and realizing that I only have one year left on my payments ($4,000), I believe the most practical thing to do is to keep my car until my warranty runs out (4 more years -- I purchased the 6 year extended warranty). Or, at least until I have my student loan paid off in 1.5 years. Many people have told me that I should love the car that I drive and to not think twice about jumping into another loan, but I just can't stomach that. Plus, once I hit 35 mph, I love my Focus. My plast-dipping my wheels today is an effort to make my car feel "new" again, so perhaps I'll get the itch to buy an SUV out of my head. It will be nice to be able to pay off some student loan debt once my car is paid off. This is what I'm telling myself. ;)

I do suspect that I'll need to bring it in again within the next few weeks. It's driving much more smoothly than it did the first time that I had issues, but that rattling/grinding noise that I hear shouldn't be happening -- period. It's not consistent, though, but I can pretty much replicate it at least once or twice during a start-to-stop drive when I accelerate at lower speeds.

Sorry for the long post, but I just wanted to catch you up. :)
08-01-2015 06:45 PM
Arco-Zakus
Welcome back

Quote:
Originally Posted by saireah View Post
It's been two weeks since my Focus with 9,763 miles had its transmission rebuilt (they also said the seals were leaking). It's now at 9,990 miles and I'm hearing the noise again. The shifting is still incredibly better after the rebuild, so that's good. ...

... I'm annoyed, to say the least, particularly since I'm coming from a lemon with Nissan 1.5 years ago. I have 2 years left on my loan (about 8K) and I can't believe I'm dealing with another car that has had to go into the shop with less than 10,000 miles again. I don't know if I should sell it or ask my dealership to buy it back and offer me something else -- I just can't handle car issues again so soon. It is driving me bonkers. It's probably my own fault for getting something with known issues, but my dealership had assured me the kinks were far better with the new models (I ordered my car) than the 2012s. :( Would love some guidance. Thank you.
It's been nine months since we last heard from you. After not seeing any comments from you for so long I thought you had given up on the car and moved on to someting else. Then I saw in another post that you're back (welcome back) so now I'm really curious how it went getting your transmission fixed. I sure hope your dealer was able to get it back working like it should.

I was also surprised that you did not get a reply to your request for guidance from strix with advice to sell it and never look back. (Nor from mr_cassandra suggesting that you get in touch with the Meagan.)
07-17-2015 09:12 PM
Troyftw I took my car in last month and the dealership "ordered my clutch pack" but now I am being told that it is on an "indefinite backorder" and they can't tell me when they will have the replacement part. My car has gotten pretty bad to the point that it almost stalls when I take off from a stop. I am not sure how much longer I can wait...
07-16-2015 02:25 PM
2013FocusTitanium Just got the word from my dealer they are going to replace my clutch for a second time - but they are back ordered. They have at least 10 similar customers in line ahead of me and Ford is not giving an ETA for when clutches will become available. :(((
07-16-2015 11:58 AM
ThoR294
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Originally Posted by TooOld View Post
Point Of Sale?
Piece of Poopie
07-16-2015 08:13 AM
TooOld
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaK_Mojave View Post
Just made the appt for my POS. Will say the rep was helpful in making the appt. see how helpful they are in getting this POS fixed. Nothing like trying to pass a rig on the highway only to have your transmission rev to red line and you just going nowhere until it decides to lock up.
Point Of Sale?
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