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Today 08:15 AM
TooOld
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Originally Posted by mr_cassandra View Post
this has already been done and works great, just not at Ford. The mazda skyactive transmissions are old style with a lockup torque converter. My mazda-3 shows 35.6 overall mileage with ZERO of the problems and symptoms that fill dozens of pages here.
I've had enough of Mazda transmissions over the years to come to the conclusion Mazda and transmissions don't go together. Unmitigated junk.
Today 07:26 AM
mr_cassandra
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Originally Posted by TKG26 View Post
My Mazda 3 was amazing.... Never once did it hick up while driving
I forgot to add one thing, the Focus when the DCT is running right is "quicker" than the mazda-3 but I think all those suffering with the DCT problems would be glad to make that trade-off
Today 06:58 AM
TKG26 My Mazda 3 was amazing.... Never once did it hick up while driving
Today 06:33 AM
mr_cassandra
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Originally Posted by DaK_Mojave View Post
Don't see how any transmission can be designed to learn habits. As dynamic as life is how can it? Even your daily commute is different every time. So how does it adapt to an ever changing situation? The one thing I've really come to like about our auto Jeep Wrangler, it doesn't do this "learning" thing. It drives and performs like the old school transmissions.

I still think this is a very bad idea. Go back to the old transmission, attempt to make them more efficient and call it good.
this has already been done and works great, just not at Ford. The mazda skyactive transmissions are old style with a lockup torque converter. My mazda-3 shows 35.6 overall mileage with ZERO of the problems and symptoms that fill dozens of pages here.
Today 06:24 AM
DaK_Mojave
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Originally Posted by TKG26 View Post
So it's a great car for one single person. Wife commutes to work 5days a week I occasionally drive at night and on weekends the family of five hop in it. Guess it's never gonna learn our habits
Don't see how any transmission can be designed to learn habits. As dynamic as life is how can it? Even your daily commute is different every time. So how does it adapt to an ever changing situation? The one thing I've really come to like about our auto Jeep Wrangler, it doesn't do this "learning" thing. It drives and performs like the old school transmissions.

I still think this is a very bad idea. Go back to the old transmission, attempt to make them more efficient and call it good.
Today 04:28 AM
Wades99
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Originally Posted by Downunder View Post
Have fun shifting through the gears on those great mountain drives you have on the north island.

I forgot to mention that the other owner I was talking about car also purchased second hand so his starting experience from this perspective was the same as you.

One good/bad things about the DCT is that it learns what to do from how you drive it, especially in the first 1,000 km after the TCM reset. If the gearbox is taught bad shifts, bad things to do to the gearbox that's what it does. Also on the positive side it can be taught to shift well. Especially if you have select shift, put it into manual mode and take some time to teach the proper shift points. Like the link I added in the earlier post (excluding the people who have mechanical problems) they found the car did perform better once they understood it was a manual gearbox with a computer etc to change the gears.

For example one of the complaints people have is the DCT shifting into a higher gear during turning and the car pausing during the turn. eg trying to enter traffic with the car in 4th at 1400 revs at 30km/20 mph is a real pain. If you were driving a manual you would have shifted up into a lower gear eg in town into 2 or 3 and you would have the engine spinning at higher revs in its power zone. You can actually teach the gearbox to be in the right gear for a turn and also you would like to apply power to drive through the corner. This is something new to learn if you have come from a car which does not handle as well as the Focus. This car can handle and you can actually drive it around corners and apply the power as it turns!
Unfortunately I live in the city suburbs and get stuck in traffic a bit. Il have to make some trips out to the open roads on the weekend and give it a blast haha
I do have the select shift so thanks for the tip! I was having trouble taking turns before when it would shift up going into the corner and when you accelerated as you turned it would shudder and struggle out of the turn. Horrible feeling. Now with the new parts its much better and you can actually trust it.
Today 04:12 AM
Wades99
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Originally Posted by ChrisFocus14 View Post
Thanks for your updates, sounds like we had similar situations coming from the Mazda, this really does feel like an upgrade.

I just got mine back from the shop as well, all they did was a re-flash but the shudder is now VERY minimal (almost unnoticeable) and the grinding is gone. I usually ALWAYS heard the grinding at this one spot by my work, and did not hear it this morning. I'm concerned that, as others have said, the flash works for a bit then it's back to normal. If it comes back, I will demand part replacements like you just got, and if that doesn't fix it i'm going to have to find a way out of this car. Such a shame, I really do love it. Fingers crossed that the re-flash worked, but i'm not convinced it will stay this perfect.

Please keep us posted on how the new transmission and parts work out, as that may be my next step.
Hi Chris, yeah it does sound like the same situation! Makes you wonder how many other people out there are in the same boat that havnt been vocal about it.
From the sound of it you may need it replaced as well. From all the other stories you hear on this forum it seems to comes back. I was surprised they didnt do the same to mine so I was happy they replaced it. Good luck with that and I hope it does work. keep us posted!
Yesterday 06:01 PM
Downunder
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Originally Posted by TKG26 View Post
So it's a great car for one single person. Wife commutes to work 5days a week I occasionally drive at night and on weekends the family of five hop in it. Guess it's never gonna learn our habits
From the adaptive learning aspect of the gearbox it is no different from most auto boxes where they all have adaptive learning where it adapts to the person who drives it the most. How well it is done and designed by the manufacturer is the key.

I guess one day they will make them smart enough to automatically change the driving settings just like some cars do for the sound system and seat positions etc to the person who is driving it for the average car driver. Some luxury cars have driving preferences for different drivers.

There are some absolute horror stories about the current auto boxes for a number of manufacturers, DCT, torque converter and CVT. Let's hope they can get it right for at least the main driver in the near future.
Yesterday 04:51 PM
TKG26 So it's a great car for one single person. Wife commutes to work 5days a week I occasionally drive at night and on weekends the family of five hop in it. Guess it's never gonna learn our habits
Yesterday 04:47 PM
Downunder
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Originally Posted by Wades99 View Post
Thats good to hear! Its such a nice car to drive so its a shame that it has these dct issues. Will post any updates or issues I have breaking in the new transmission ;-)
Have fun shifting through the gears on those great mountain drives you have on the north island.

I forgot to mention that the other owner I was talking about car also purchased second hand so his starting experience from this perspective was the same as you.

One good/bad things about the DCT is that it learns what to do from how you drive it, especially in the first 1,000 km after the TCM reset. If the gearbox is taught bad shifts, bad things to do to the gearbox that's what it does. Also on the positive side it can be taught to shift well. Especially if you have select shift, put it into manual mode and take some time to teach the proper shift points. Like the link I added in the earlier post (excluding the people who have mechanical problems) they found the car did perform better once they understood it was a manual gearbox with a computer etc to change the gears.

For example one of the complaints people have is the DCT shifting into a higher gear during turning and the car pausing during the turn. eg trying to enter traffic with the car in 4th at 1400 revs at 30km/20 mph is a real pain. If you were driving a manual you would have shifted up into a lower gear eg in town into 2 or 3 and you would have the engine spinning at higher revs in its power zone. You can actually teach the gearbox to be in the right gear for a turn and also you would like to apply power to drive through the corner. This is something new to learn if you have come from a car which does not handle as well as the Focus. This car can handle and you can actually drive it around corners and apply the power as it turns!
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