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Today 03:41 PM
TheHumbleGeek Yup, exactly...

Its good that they tried to make the law easier to understand... Not for the officer, who gets training on translating legalese into applicable usage, but for the layperson, who doesnt understand, for example, the legal difference between "cannot" and "should not".

Anyways, know the laws, words and all. I know a couple of people who have illegal things on their vehicles, but fight the ticket every time and win, simply because they understand the wording of the law and how to exploit a weakness in those same laws.

Me personally, my TB Sedan is getting 5% on everything except the windshield, because privacy. Im still trying to figure out what would keep prying eyes out, while still allowing good day and night visibility through the windshield... Ive heard of Llumar Air... But its hard to tell what it looks like, and noone has posted pics from inside, just outside.
Today 03:00 PM
Tiger-Heli And in the US, laws are passed by the legislatures, and in order to get them passed, they are often named the opposite of what the accomplish ...

Hard to post an example without a political slant, but from a Conservative viewpoint - "The Patient Affordable Care Act" - which greatly drives up the cost of health coverage for people who already had it, which is most people, or from a Liberal viewpoint "No Child Left Behind", which essentially means that schools will spend time getting the least intelligent 10% of the class to handle basic skills, so 90% of the students are bored and not learning anything.
Today 01:49 PM
TheHumbleGeek Yea, thats what I was trying to say (and failing, apparently)...

Legal definitions of words can be different than you might think, and can be different from their usage in normal conversation.... "Legal-ese" as it were, is VERY precise, and every word is chosen, and every sentence structured, to express the exact intent and purpose the writer of the law wanted to get across. Nothing, and I mean NOTHING, is there by happenstance... I tried looking into it in greater detail once... And was so very quickly in over my head, it blew me away.
Today 01:40 PM
Originally Posted by TheHumbleGeek View Post
i would add, know your tint laws. Not just what is posted on some website, but the actual wording.
And what the words mean ...

For example - In NE, the window tint law (verify) is 35% VLT on the front windows and 20% on the rear windows.

That is something easy to measure with a light meter.

That does NOT mean you can legally put 35% film on the front windows and 20% film on the rear windows - especially if the car might already have 17% tint from the factory.

NOTE also that the law is worded to be easy for the officer to determine. The tint shop might have a hard time figuring out how dark of tint they can add to 17% to stay above 35%, but they also don't really have to, you will be the one that gets the ticket ...
Today 01:39 PM
Originally Posted by Slicknick View Post
My car came with something like 50% which is fine most of the time. But, It needs to be darker in the back for the kids. I can't have them yelling in the car cause it's too bright.

Are your kids vampires?
Today 08:23 AM
Vlad_x35 That is a nice blue Nick. I don't usually like chromed stripes around the windows, but here it goes well with the wheels and foglights...
Yesterday 11:11 PM
Slicknick My car came with something like 50% which is fine most of the time. But, It needs to be darker in the back for the kids. I can't have them yelling in the car cause it's too bright. Even my suv has 35% over the rear factory tint.

Yesterday 07:13 PM
lowflyn Having dark tint is just asking to be pulled over. With that said I have had a very good year of no conversations with officers.
Yesterday 06:09 PM
TheHumbleGeek ^^^^^ THIS....

i would add, know your tint laws. Not just what is posted on some website, but the actual wording. Not to fight the officer, but IF you have to (or want to) fight a ticket in court, knowing what the actual wording of the law is can be the difference between "remove it today and pay the fine" and "you can remove it at your leisure and no fine involved".

For example, Here in alberta, alot of people have tinted taillights... Even more believe tinted taillights are illegal, because the wording of one part of the law says not to apply any covering that affects the light colour or output, but that only applies to headlights. The actual law for taillights doesnt specify anything at all about tint, only that the lights must still be visible from specified distances. Which means that if I should happen to get a ticket, I walk into court and ask the officer (assuming they show) how he was able to tell, from a moving vehicle, that my lights fell below the legal level for a specified distance. then I can also replace the bulbs with brighter ones prior to my court date, to cover my butt and as extra insurance.

But again, knowing the wording of the law, and placing the safety concerns of the officer who pulled you over, as well as being polite and respectful, will go a LONG way to keeping you from getting a ticket.
Yesterday 03:51 PM
Originally Posted by jrfender View Post
Ever had any hastle from police? I'm new to the CA tint law.
I would expect CA to be more strict than other states, but in all states it will really vary on the individual police officer.

And it can vary anywhere from nice "You know, that tint probably is darker than legal, you might want to get that fixed before someone ELSE writes you a ticket." To "Okay, here's an equipment violation ticket, you have two options: you can take the tint off the window right here while I wait, or I can have a tow truck come and impound your car until you authorize someone to remove it".


When you get pulled over, fully lower ALL the windows before the car stops and keep your hands in plain sight.
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