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02-25-2012 09:35 PM
DoomsdayFAN I think I'm just going to say f@*k it and get the header/flex/exhaust/tune. I've already got the CAI and the 67mm TB is on the way. If all I can do are 15s, so be it. For an ATX 2.0 Sedan w/o forced induction, I'm sure that's pretty fast. Plus, I don't want to really get rid of the FoFo.

Maybe sometime down the road I'll add a Stage 2 Camshaft in addition with the above listed mods. At this point in my life, I'll be happy with what all that nets me.

Tonight I'm going out to the drags. They aren't officially open to the public yet, but my ricer buddies know the guy who basically runs the place and he lets us go out there for free. We don't get to use the time equipment or anything, but at least we can run against one another. All I'm rocken now is a CAI. Otherwise, I'm bone stock. But we'll see how I do. I'll probably take on this really old school Supra. It has a real loose suspension (causing it to sway back and forth a lot) and it gets a lot of tire spin, so I'm hopeing that'll be to my advantage. But I don't really think I can take it, but we'll see.

Anyway, smog is next week. After that I'll order my other mods. Can't wait for the upgrade!
02-25-2012 01:57 AM
goinloco1
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Originally Posted by DoomsdayFAN View Post
Uhg, yeah, that's my problem. Every time I think about this, I want to sell my Focus and go buy a different car. One that'll be a hell of a lot faster.

But the Foc runs good, and mod'ing it would be fun. I just know it wouldn't make me all that fast, which just kills me to know that. So, I don't know what to do.



Also, here in Cali the highest rated fuel we have is 91 (out of 87 - 89 - 91), so what if I had my tuner tune me to 91 gas? How much difference would that make?
Wouldn't matter what 4 cyl you had, it takes money to make power and speed. They were never meant (at least us models) to be speed deamons without alot of work and money. And you being in cali raises other problems such as emissions and inspections. Get tiring after awhile taking parts off and putting them back on every time the car was up for inspection or you got sent to a ref.
A tune on 91 would help some since the timing could be raised a bit but on a stock car dont think it would give you a seat of the pants difference in feel, a little but nothing much. a cai and dyno tune to start would be your best dollar per grin factor experience. let it breath easier before doing anything else.
02-24-2012 05:33 PM
DoomsdayFAN
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with those mods and the slushbox high 15's unless the tune also firms the shifts and raises the shift points, then maybe somewhere in the mid 15's.
without either seriously building the motor or running some type of boost or power adder its pretty out of reach. not saying it cant be done.
Look at how much all those parts add up too, is the hunt for what little your going to gain vs the cost for parts worth it? the tune itself is going to run a minimum of 350 just for the tuning unit and a custom tune by a reputable tuner is going to add another 300-600 to that.
Not trying to dissuade you, just pointing out reality and sometimes reality sucks when the big picture (costs vs gains) is looked at.

Uhg, yeah, that's my problem. Every time I think about this, I want to sell my Focus and go buy a different car. One that'll be a hell of a lot faster.

But the Foc runs good, and mod'ing it would be fun. I just know it wouldn't make me all that fast, which just kills me to know that. So, I don't know what to do.



Also, here in Cali the highest rated fuel we have is 91 (out of 87 - 89 - 91), so what if I had my tuner tune me to 91 gas? How much difference would that make?
02-24-2012 07:43 AM
daveyboy Honestly when I was racing my focus full time I ran a half a tank of gas. I tried running less and it really didnt make any diffrence.. few hundredths. but thats my car
02-23-2012 10:36 PM
goinloco1 with those mods and the slushbox high 15's unless the tune also firms the shifts and raises the shift points, then maybe somewhere in the mid 15's.
without either seriously building the motor or running some type of boost or power adder its pretty out of reach. not saying it cant be done.
Look at how much all those parts add up too, is the hunt for what little your going to gain vs the cost for parts worth it? the tune itself is going to run a minimum of 350 just for the tuning unit and a custom tune by a reputable tuner is going to add another 300-600 to that.
Not trying to dissuade you, just pointing out reality and sometimes reality sucks when the big picture (costs vs gains) is looked at.
02-22-2012 11:45 PM
DoomsdayFAN Not including a Turbo, Supercharger, or NOS, what other kind of mods would I need in addition with the CAI/67mm TB/Header/Flexpipe/Exaust/Tune/Empty Car to get me to the 14s?


Mid-to-high 15s is decent for an ATX 2.0 Duratec Focus Sedan, isn't it? I mean, as it is now, I'm probably running 17s-18s or something like that. So in the 15s sounds pretty good to me, for what the car is.
02-22-2012 08:58 PM
goinloco1 Hate to break it to ya, but you arent going to hit anything in the 14's with even those mods. the 2.3 would be at the point of getting ther but still wouldnt.
The only stock car except for the mods stated minus the header that busted into the upper 14's was squirting nitrous.
nore like mid to high 15's is luck is with you. been there, done that, wont do it again. waste of money imho.
02-21-2012 11:05 PM
DoomsdayFAN I'll certainly look into motor mounts. btw, it's a 2.0L

Well, do you think with Intake/Exhaust/Header/Tune/Empty Car AND coilovers w/ new tires, I could run 14s?



I went to the drags today (they're closed but the gate to get out there was wide open) so I drove out there and found some dude out there who looked like he was working on something, so I asked if I could line up and make a run and he said he didn't care. So I lined up, reved my car while pressing on the break, then launched off. By the time I passed the 1/4 marker, I was doing exactly 80mph. So, 0-80 in 1/4 mile with only a CAI and nothing else (not even a tune), how good is that? I know it's nothing even remotely special, but now at least I know what I'm running. Do you think that post header/exhaust/tune I'll be able to make the same run and get up to 95+mph by the 1/4 mile marker?
02-21-2012 07:53 PM
AllOutZX2
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Thats good to know. At times, I've run my tank til the gas light comes on, and then I kept going. :D Not good I guess.But yeah, next time I go, I'll take everything out of my car and just show up bare with just myself in it, a quarter tank or less, and hope for the best.

And when I get a header, exhaust, and tune, hopefully all that, plus the empty car, will help me achieve my desired goal of 14s for the 1/4 run.
4 Door Sedan weighs a good bit... 2.0L Duratec or 2.3L Duratec?

2.0L I can't see you running 14's with Intake,Header,Exhaust,Tune. I would aim for low 15's.
2.3L Very possible for 14's.

Your 60ft times will determine how good you run. I've seen some quick bolt-on cars run off what they expected when they go to the track, takes practice to launch correctly.

Speaking of going to the track, you will want to look at upgraded motor mounts to keep wheel hop down at the track. Not only will it improve your times it will save your axles/diff.
02-21-2012 02:01 AM
DoomsdayFAN Thats good to know. At times, I've run my tank til the gas light comes on, and then I kept going. :D Not good I guess.But yeah, next time I go, I'll take everything out of my car and just show up bare with just myself in it, a quarter tank or less, and hope for the best.

And when I get a header, exhaust, and tune, hopefully all that, plus the empty car, will help me achieve my desired goal of 14s for the 1/4 run.
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