|Today 10:33 AM|
|ChrisFocus14||Thanks, i'll do some research!|
|Today 10:31 AM|
|Today 10:21 AM|
I had the flash update done about Sept 1st. It was driving VERY SMOOTHLY for a while. It has been about 6-7k miles since then and the shudder has started again, not as bad as it was before but is slowly getting worse. I am due for oil change (free from ford dealer) in 2k miles so I will be back again with the same DCT issues. I'm worried that because the clutch parts are so far backordered that they will just insist on another flash update, just pushing me back a few more months until the issue resurfaces.
My question is, has anyone had any luck with Ford doing a buyback? I am getting to the point of just eating the money I put into it (my trade in + downpayment) and seeing if they'd be wiling to buy back the car for what I owe and put me into something different. I love this car but I can't handle the constant issues that seem to crop up every few months with this DCT BS. If it would just drive as smoothly as it did the first 5k miles after the flash, i'd be in love with this thing.
|11-14-2015 03:16 AM|
I found this thread really interesting "Did a tune help your DCT"
The thread is in the performance section of the forum which may not be a place where people with DCT problems would look but it seems people who get a "Focus-Power tune" who previously had DCT problems saw great improvement after the tune.
"Hey guys, just wanted to share my experience with our Focus. I've read almost every post on here for over a year, and just like you guys I've dealt with Ford way to much over the issue and I will say Carl Gregory Ford has been outstanding, however as most of you know the dealerships are not magicians and can only do what Ford tells them updates, clutches, new trans ect. I noticed after the 1st clutch change that the clutches still slipped and mentioned this to our dealer, they said they could only put in the updates Ford gave them, so I said well I'll bring it back when it starts shuddering again. About one year later, we were back with the very mild AKA- NORMAL Shudder. As time passed the car no longer had the so called normal shudder, which was every takeoff, but was jumping like a jack rabbit at least 2-3 days a week, what I did notice was after every reflash ours did great for 2 weeks, so I decided it had to be in the factory tune and began to decide which tuner we were going with. The last visit the Tech never even started to say it was within specs, but his words were, this car has got to have clutches, it's jumping!! We had about a month to test a tune, which was gonna be our deciding factor for whether or not we would keep the car after the new clutches and decided to go with Tom and cannot be any happier, after the base file and programmer arrived we had 3 weeks to test it with the bad clutches, during the time we had absolutely no shudder whatsoever, and trust me we tried our best to get a shudder, but couldn't on top of that our takeoffs, up shifts, and downshifts were so much better, so much that my wife says if we had never had any shudder the tune would still be worth it. I did return it to stock after 2 days with the tune, thinking it might just be having a good week, shudder was back instantly, so tune went back in, shudder gone instantly. Long story short this is the first time in 60000 miles we have been happy with the car, it now has a little over 78000. Now I will say why I went with Tom I called a few, and I kept hearing if you have shudder carry it to Ford, well Ford couldn't fix it, but TOM did lol."
|11-12-2015 08:24 PM|
|slbenz||Just picked up my Focus from the dealer. Took four months for them to obtain the new clutch parts. Now my Focus drives better than new.|
|10-23-2015 08:54 PM|
I had the complete 'fix' in August(?) and it has been perfect in both cold and hot weather. Not one stumble, missed shift, hesitation, etc. Gas mileage is still 30'ish around town and 40 on the hwy at a steady 65. It's a shame some folks are still having 'half measures' performed by dealers but, per my dealer, the parts are on national backorder and my complaint to Ford's EVP was all that got me 'jumped' to the front of the line.
No, I'm no better than anyone else but I am bulldog that doesn't take half-measures lightly. Complain, folks. CSR's are limited to a script and, despite their best intentions, can't fix this problem without the dealer getting the necessary parts.
|10-23-2015 07:45 PM|
Who here has the worst acting DCT , one that is the biggest issues of anyone , studder , slipping , grinding etc , WORST ONE !
Please send me a PM
|10-23-2015 07:35 AM|
|DaK_Mojave||^^Interesting read. Especially since I am experiencing the opposite with the gas mileage. If the car is still around next summer, will have to see how this all plays.|
|10-22-2015 09:44 AM|
Most people experience this
"Cold weather and winter driving conditions can reduce your fuel economy significantly.
Fuel economy tests show that, in short-trip city driving, a conventional gasoline car's gas mileage is about 12% lower at 20°F than it would be at 77°F. It can drop as much as 22% for very short trips (3 to 4 miles).
The effect on hybrids is worse. Their fuel economy can drop about 31% to 34% under these conditions."
Here's a good article explaining the fuel mix changes
"In winter, it’s cold, and so refineries are allowed to produce gasoline that evaporates more easily. So they maximize the cheap, low energy butane in the mix. Any benefit of your car starting more readily is really limited to old and/or poorly maintained vehicles. Current vehicle technology is pretty hardy.
What’s the result? Well, basically, winter blend gasoline has a larger percentage of butane in it. And since butane is cheaper and has less energy, winter blend thus costs less and gives us a lower MPG when we burn it. So it’s a wash, right? Eh, maybe. Your vehicle miles per gallon typically will drop 2-8% when you start filling up with winter blend. Unfortunately, evidence suggests that the common price decline is 2-4%. Of course this price change can easily be lost in the noise of a global commodity."
Talking about fuels it seems in the US compared to Australia mixing alcohol into the fuel is more popular in the US. In Australia there are normally 5 different type of fuels at a gas station.
1) Petrol with 15% ethanol
2) Petrol with no ethanol
3) Petrol with higher octane with no ethanol
High octane petrol is popular.
There are many article indicating alcohol mixed with petrol fuel is not good for your car. Especially if water gets into the tank. Water in your fuel in a car is very bad news. They don't recommend you use it for your mower or boat but push you to use it in your car.
Because of the direct nature of a DCT or a manual gearbox with the engine, if your engine is running rough it is going to make your gearbox feel bad.
Some food for thought when comparing a Focus in the US vs one in Europe. European cars are usual tuned to using higher octane fuels as most fuel is higher octane.
|10-22-2015 08:09 AM|
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