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09-12-2014 11:30 PM
mcknatz
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Originally Posted by Stryker412 View Post
So the recent Spotify update that came out on iOS that states it now works with Ford App Link means it will or won't work with MFT?
At this time it will NOT work with MFT. MFT != Sync/App Link
09-12-2014 09:58 PM
Stryker412 So the recent Spotify update that came out on iOS that states it now works with Ford App Link means it will or won't work with MFT?
08-31-2014 12:50 PM
copernicium112
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Originally Posted by yellowcord View Post
That is interesting. It wasn't deleted by the SMR mods so it seems like it could be true. Then again I would have thought that we would have heard more by now if others had gotten it. The person also doesn't say what has changed which would be very helpful.
I know right? I would have loved some feedback with regard to any changes. I'm guessing that if the were some things of significance (cough, cough - Applink) it would have been mentioned so maybe just another "improve stability" type update, which would be weak.

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Originally Posted by yellowcord View Post
I can believe that they released it and then decided that it wasn't a good idea to release it before a long weekend.
I'm still slightly suspicious. There was a European update a little while back that some N. American owners managed to get and risked installing but IIRC (which I may not) that one was listed as v3.7.6, not v3.7.11. Something seems off because as you said, more than likely more than one person would have gotten their hands on it and I haven't really seen anything checking the forums for other models. Of course the poster said the dealership confirmed that they had v3.7 so who knows?
08-31-2014 02:54 AM
yellowcord
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Originally Posted by copernicium112 View Post
That is interesting. It wasn't deleted by the SMR mods so it seems like it could be true. Then again I would have thought that we would have heard more by now if others had gotten it. The person also doesn't say what has changed which would be very helpful.

I can believe that they released it and then decided that it wasn't a good idea to release it before a long weekend.
08-29-2014 10:28 AM
copernicium112 Interesting thread over at SMR:

http://boards.synccommunity.com/disc...1?nav=messages
08-20-2014 10:23 PM
yellowcord
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Originally Posted by TheOldBear View Post
Well, there are:
  • Removed features [e.g. programmable buttons, song progress bar, wallpaper, clock DST offset for MFT with Nav…] The newer Foci don't have the buttons so I don't believe that functionality will return. Jerk move Ford, Jerk move. I don't miss the song progress bar but I don't think I ever had it. Honestly I think Ford kinda got it right (unintentionally) with the lack of DST because DST a stupid concept in the first place. Having said that, it does need to be fixed.
  • Misfeatures [useless WiFi, no autoclock set, useless calendar, floating ball compass]. A misfeature is where software meets the specification, but does nothing useful. Wifi is not quite useless but pretty close, not sure what is meant by autoclock, do you mean you have to tell MFT to sync to GPS? If so they probably disabled it when they messed up the DST functionality. I like the compass personally, I'm not sure what else they could do there but it couldn't hurt to have options.
  • Bugs [Report of volume excursion with 3.6.2 this week over on Ford's MFT forums], clock not staying set. What do you mean volume excusion? I don't see anything on the front syncmyride.com page. My clock stays set but it does drift.

There are also obvious missing features, like backup/restore settings, so it would be possible to preserve the customer's customized configuration across software or hardware upgrades. That would be nice and it should be easy but for some reason it's one of the least likely things to work in any firmware upgrade. I wouldn't trust Ford/Microsoft to get it right. They definitely should be able save Nav points and stuff like that though!

Another missing feature is the promise of 'apps' for MFT, but since the current hardware struggles to run just the base software, I would not expect to see this except by QNX/CarPlay relaying the app from a phone. Agreed. I believe this is the end of the line for MFT and don't expect any future in fully "proprietary" systems. I believe the MFT hardware could run CarPlay or Android Auto but I'm not going to hold my breath

I also see a basic management problem - there are no software defect tracking tools available to provide feedback to both Customers and Ford.
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Originally Posted by Dick W View Post
To which I'd add just a whole lot of random non-reproducible behavior. Forgets what you were listening to when you shut the car off. I don't have this problem any more. I used to but it seems to have fixed itself shortly after 3.6.2. Forgets what you were listening to when you press the start button. Same issue?Backup camera stays on screen for two or three miles after you shift to D. I think this is easily fixed by shifting back into reverse and then into drive again. Might be different for manuals/automatics though. It does need to be fixed though. Backup camera sometimes just stops showing the guidance lines. UI hangs. UI just changes to another screen. Reboots. I don't think I've seen any of those issues since the first month after 3.6.2And on and on. Do I see all these things frequently? No. Should I *ever* see them? My wife has pretty much taken to driving with the radio off at all times. She's never even tested if SMS integration works with her new phone because she basically thinks anything on it is unlikely to work reliably enough to be worth messing with. I think the SMS integration is highly dependent on the phone. My Nexus 4 started out not working at all and gradually got better with newer versions of Android and my current Nexus 5 was initially intermittent with it working and was working perfectly with the latest 4.4.4 and then I installed CyanogenMod and it is back to being intermittent but it's CyanogenMod at fault as the entire bluetooth functionality locks up and I need to restart it.

Glad some people are really happy with 3.6.2. Not us.
See stuff I said inline above in blue.

Final thoughts: For me the major issues have gone away (random resetting, crashing, not being usable every 5th trip, etc.) but this system has pretty much completely soured me on OEM "premium" stereos. My next car will likely be purchased with the expectation that I will be replacing the stereo.
08-20-2014 08:54 PM
Dick W To which I'd add just a whole lot of random non-reproducible behavior. Forgets what you were listening to when you shut the car off. Forgets what you were listening to when you press the start button. Backup camera stays on screen for two or three miles after you shift to D. Backup camera sometimes just stops showing the guidance lines. UI hangs. UI just changes to another screen. Reboots. And on and on. Do I see all these things frequently? No. Should I *ever* see them? My wife has pretty much taken to driving with the radio off at all times. She's never even tested if SMS integration works with her new phone because she basically thinks anything on it is unlikely to work reliably enough to be worth messing with.

Glad some people are really happy with 3.6.2. Not us.
08-20-2014 02:44 PM
TheOldBear
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Originally Posted by Woggy64 View Post
I have had zero issues since getting 3.6.2. What issue do you seem to have with it?
Well, there are:
  • Removed features [e.g. programmable buttons, song progress bar, wallpaper, clock DST offset for MFT with Navů]
  • Misfeatures [useless WiFi, no autoclock set, useless calendar, floating ball compass]. A misfeature is where software meets the specification, but does nothing useful.
  • Bugs [Report of volume excursion with 3.6.2 this week over on Ford's MFT forums], clock not staying set.

There are also obvious missing features, like backup/restore settings, so it would be possible to preserve the customer's customized configuration across software or hardware upgrades.

Another missing feature is the promise of 'apps' for MFT, but since the current hardware struggles to run just the base software, I would not expect to see this except by QNX/CarPlay relaying the app from a phone.

I also see a basic management problem - there are no software defect tracking tools available to provide feedback to both Customers and Ford.
08-20-2014 02:05 PM
Woggy64
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Originally Posted by Dick W View Post
So it's been about a year since 3.6.2 came out and there doesn't seem to be any sign of 3.6.3/3.7/4.0

Is Ford subtly trying to tell us that this generation of MFT is as good (least bad?) as it's ever going to be?

Last. Ford. Ever.
I have had zero issues since getting 3.6.2. What issue do you seem to have with it?
08-18-2014 11:09 PM
Dick W So it's been about a year since 3.6.2 came out and there doesn't seem to be any sign of 3.6.3/3.7/4.0

Is Ford subtly trying to tell us that this generation of MFT is as good (least bad?) as it's ever going to be?

Last. Ford. Ever.
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