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01-20-2013 11:05 PM
jsr72
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Originally Posted by Bolto View Post
Anyone have any luck with getting the limiters removed
Keep in mind if you do remove the ti handling limiters, you must replace them with the regular (less restrictive / thinner) limiters.
01-20-2013 07:29 PM
Bolto Anyone have any luck with getting the limiters removed or changing out the rack? I switched from the 18" wheels to 17" ones, and although the bigger turn radius doesn't affect me too much, it would be nice to be able make tighter turns.
10-29-2012 06:08 PM
TiStick
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Originally Posted by kingsoup View Post
Its kind of a pain in the butt, but I don't find it that annoying. Its a tradeoff I'll happily take for being able to run 235mm rubber on this car, its wider then any other car in this class, a lot of rubber on the road for a FWD compact car. I'll take 235mm and a bit wider radius turn then 215's and a bit smaller turning radius I don't use 99.5% of the time, where as I do use the extra rubber a lot more then that.

And if we take off the limiters, then the 235's will rub presumed, I appreciate it while the snows are on, but still?
I appreciate that Ford put on 235's despite having to put a giant full size spare in the trunk and limit the steering, better then some Mazda engineer who gave 225 or 215 the max width to make the soccer moms happier with a tight turning radius who'd never use wide performance rubber in their whole life.
Many people have put the 18x8 ET55's w/235 rubber on their non-Ti cars and reported no rubbing.

I will swap in a non-THP steering rack sometime down the road.
10-29-2012 05:51 PM
kingsoup Its kind of a pain in the butt, but I don't find it that annoying. Its a tradeoff I'll happily take for being able to run 235mm rubber on this car, its wider then any other car in this class, a lot of rubber on the road for a FWD compact car. I'll take 235mm and a bit wider radius turn then 215's and a bit smaller turning radius I don't use 99.5% of the time, where as I do use the extra rubber a lot more then that.

And if we take off the limiters, then the 235's will rub presumed, I appreciate it while the snows are on, but still?

I appreciate that Ford put on 235's despite having to put a giant full size spare in the trunk and limit the steering, better then some Mazda engineer who gave 225 or 215 the max width to make the soccer moms happier with a tight turning radius who'd never use wide performance rubber in their whole life.
10-29-2012 02:45 PM
Chris_HT Driving an SVT Focus I do feel you all about wide turns, but well... that's something I gladly sacrifice for the handling I get when I'm actually driving the car.

Also, don't forget about handbrake, it's not only for track, or a RICER show-off tool.
You can do that even at very low speeds, or even from a stand, and it makes your 4 lane turn getting reduced to 2 line turn.
I decided to mention it after reading concerns from people about winter time U turns, that's especially useful there, and you won't even abuse the tire while doing it on snow.

Keep in mind, in countries where winter prevails for most part of the year, that's just the way they do it. In Finland when there's snow, people do one lane U turns :P
10-29-2012 01:31 PM
TiStick
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
Tell me about it; try living with them downtown.
Yeah, and it looks like it would be a total PITA to do a swap

le sigh

My wife's AWD '12 Impreza out turns the Ti
10-29-2012 01:24 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by TiStick View Post
I would gladly lose the limiters
Tell me about it; try living with them downtown.
10-29-2012 01:17 PM
TiStick
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Originally Posted by PratoN View Post
All of the wheel heights are roughly the same, that's why I think it's the width... I believe offset also has to do with the rubbing. Here a little picture I drew up... I think it goes without saying that it's obviously an over-simplified representation of the car's steering system. haha
It is curious that people who have put the THP 18's on a non THP car have not reported any rubbing issues. I would gladly lose the limiters, as I don't do full lock at speeds above 5mph or so. Also, Ford Racing is selling the THP 18's in black, and not warning customers about a potential for rubbing in non THP cars.
10-29-2012 01:06 PM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by cobie56 View Post
So.... are the limiters because the wheels are 18" and rub at full turn or because the tires are 235mm wide?
All of the wheel heights are roughly the same, that's why I think it's the width... I believe offset also has to do with the rubbing. Here a little picture I drew up... I think it goes without saying that it's obviously an over-simplified representation of the car's steering system. haha
10-29-2012 12:54 PM
cobie56
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Originally Posted by VOLDAR View Post
I would not remove myself the limiters if I were you, PratoN.

I was there and I checked whether to go Ti or SEL and the final choice was SEL. Exactly because of the 18" wheels and the limiters that come with them. So, I suggest you either downgrade to 17" wheels and get rid of the limiters or learn to live with them. I, at the time of purchase, couldn't stand them. And I love how my 17" wheels Focus do the 180 turns.
So.... are the limiters because the wheels are 18" and rub at full turn or because the tires are 235mm wide?

i want to upgrade the stock 215/50/17 tires to 235/45/17 and am thinking that they won't rub cuz the wheels/tire height is roughly the same as the stock

i.e.: 215/50/17 = 25.5" tall
235/45/17 = 25.3" tall

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