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Today 10:33 AM
klodkrawler05 I loved my first engineering job, gladly worked OT, the projects were fun, the pay/benefits were good, the team I was on was cool we were friends outside of work too etc.

after 6 years I got laid off without a moments notice, that's about the time I realized that to the people at the top actually making the decisions you're just a number. X worker does Y things well and costs us Z dollars. any time one of those things stop making sense to them you're gone. It's not personal its just business. If I was running a company I'd likely wind up making the same choices. So with that in mind I always focus my work/career around me and my family, not around some perceived loyalty to the Co.

That said I do game the system a bit, 2 years is about my minimum length of employment at a place unless an amazingly awesome offer comes along to make me move sooner, but I feel after 2 years I've given somewhere a pretty fair shake and don't have to explain during interviews how I'm not a job hopper. I'd gladly stay longer for somewhere like my first job, but I'd still be keeping an ear to the ground and an eye on other opportunities.

I agree that those who change jobs wind up making more money, most of the times I've moved jobs I've gotten a large jump in pay or a big change in benefits. meanwhile during my stay at work the best I've seen is a 5% increase in pay over 1 year.

This new job may be one I'll stay at longer as there seems to be some pretty good opportunity to climb up the ladder a ways and I think I'm pretty quickly nearing the max net worth of my position without moving to a higher position.
Today 10:08 AM
gold_zx3 Congrats dude!

Studies show that people that move job to job make much more than someone who stays at one place (obviously) yet companies try to dignify those that are "loyal" to the company for years. When I first started 5 years ago the president of the company was touring our facility and asked me if I was going to make a career out of this place, knowing I was fresh out of college and just started. Me being stupidly honest to a fault, I told him I really didn't know. Boy that threw him for a loop, but the next year he visited he was asking the plant manager, "Where is that little ****er at?" and he still remembers me every time he comes in. But eff that, times are changing. If you can't pay someone competitively than don't get butt hurt when they leave you. And where's that loyalty when you downsize or outsource to increase your profits? I keep wanting to do something that pays better or at least more interesting. I make pretty decent money but I know others with the same degree who are making more and get to travel and whatnot. But I don't want to get caught up in a grass is greener on the other side situation. My job is easy and I do get 3 weeks of vacation. My boss pretty much told me he doesn't keep a close eye on my vacation days and I could probably take more days off.
Today 09:38 AM
klodkrawler05
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Well that makes sense then, I got 35% more coming to Chrysler which was about the same drive as my previous but now going to Ford I'm only getting 5% more but the commute is down from 52 miles round trip to 26 :)
Yup yup, I suspect in the future my next job will focus more on perks like shorter drive/more vacation etc. with a pay close to this new job.

Seems like I work through in cycles, find a job with awesome perks and ok pay, then move to a higher paying job with less benefits, then get a job at that pay scale but more perks, repeat.
Today 09:34 AM
wordyahurdd
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Awesome!

yea I thought for sure I wouldn't take a job where I was driving so far again but....its a nearly 40% increase in pay so I'm willing to make an exception for the same drive I have now but in a different direction.

Well that makes sense then, I got 35% more coming to Chrysler which was about the same drive as my previous but now going to Ford I'm only getting 5% more but the commute is down from 52 miles round trip to 26 :)
Today 09:33 AM
svt1391 ^ don't we all lol

Congrats Brad!
Today 09:31 AM
egman2005 I want a job with 40% increase
Today 09:13 AM
Chas woah, yeah. that's awesome!
Today 08:56 AM
klodkrawler05
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your insane!

edit: while looking at google maps, that place is right by one of my old internships!! Asmo Manufacturing is across the street
Awesome!

yea I thought for sure I wouldn't take a job where I was driving so far again but....its a nearly 40% increase in pay so I'm willing to make an exception for the same drive I have now but in a different direction.
Today 08:47 AM
beat3rfocus Congrats! All the new jobs. Thankfully I'm still super happy with mine.
Today 08:45 AM
wordyahurdd
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Originally Posted by klodkrawler05 View Post
No 5 minutes further away, in battle creek
your insane!

edit: while looking at google maps, that place is right by one of my old internships!! Asmo Manufacturing is across the street
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