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06-26-2015 12:15 PM
danbfree
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Originally Posted by cobrajet429 View Post
Don't they just increase the ethanol content to up the octane?
If you are talking about gasoline in general, no... Most places have E10 by default now and that amount of ethanol stays the same in every octane grade. Ethanol in e85+ form has a very high octane rating but provides poor MPG.
06-26-2015 12:12 PM
cobrajet429 Don't they just increase the ethanol content to up the octane?
06-26-2015 10:08 AM
danbfree
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Originally Posted by TooOld View Post
What does a chain / station / company need to do to get the "top tier" label?

Is there a certification process?
Check out the web site: Top Tier Gasoline

Basically a standard made up by the German car makers that sets a minimum amount of detergent additives to prevent deposits in fuel injected cars, roughly... For Direct Injected engines it's even more important, but the bottom line is avoid total no-name gas. Just about all the major brands are listed now including Costco and Arco which achieved the standard last year.
06-26-2015 07:54 AM
TooOld What does a chain / station / company need to do to get the "top tier" label?

Is there a certification process?
06-26-2015 12:01 AM
danbfree
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Originally Posted by Jburks View Post
yeah, I don't know if its a fact or not but I've heard that up here anyway Safeway gas is the same stuff as Chevron. But ever since I've been using Texaco I've been getting better gas mileage and it's on my daily commute so I'll be sticking with it for now.
That sounds about right as Safeway points are redeemable at Texaco or Chevron, but I'd go with the Texaco or Chevron as they are Top Tier certified, Safeway probably doesn't get the same amount of detergents.
06-25-2015 11:35 PM
Jburks yeah, I don't know if its a fact or not but I've heard that up here anyway Safeway gas is the same stuff as Chevron. But ever since I've been using Texaco I've been getting better gas mileage and it's on my daily commute so I'll be sticking with it for now.
06-25-2015 09:48 PM
danbfree
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good to know. I was thinking about using Costco, they definitely are cheaper then most. I'd have a hard time using Arco. they may be fine now but I've known to many people who's cars got messed up using Arco.
Since they are Top Tier now they have a standard to maintain, I'd use Arco before ANY non-Top Tier like the grocery store brands, Astro, etc.. especially since DI cars need the most detergents possible to prevent carbon buildup... Even if that issue is supposedly resolved, I only use Top Tier, period.
06-25-2015 09:37 PM
Jburks good to know. I was thinking about using Costco, they definitely are cheaper then most. I'd have a hard time using Arco. they may be fine now but I've known to many people who's cars got messed up using Arco.
06-25-2015 09:12 PM
danbfree
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I didn't know Arco was top tier now. I've been using 92 octane Texaco here and I've been averaging about 29mpg almost all city and hilly country road driving. so I'm pretty happy. I was averaging about 26mpg on Safeway 92 octane before.
Ya, Arco went Top Tier about a year ago... Although they say all gas is the same, I think the bigger brands use better additives and have better storage /transfer processes and from what I've seen, Shell seems the best. Honestly I don't try many brands as Arco and Costco give me the best bang for the buck, but Texaco was good to me in the past. Since you're up here in the NW, avoid Fred Meyer gas. It seems to give the least power and mileage.
06-25-2015 07:09 PM
Jburks I didn't know Arco was top tier now. I've been using 92 octane Texaco here and I've been averaging about 29mpg almost all city and hilly country road driving. so I'm pretty happy. I was averaging about 26mpg on Safeway 92 octane before.
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