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|11-21-2013 02:19 AM|
The model # of the bazooka tube you gave me shows it has a built in amp and that requires 3 power wires +- and remote.
And either 2 RCA or 4 high level input wires right?
Who installed it?
You radio has the settings im talking about.
Ide set your HPF (high pass filter) to 120 for the stock speakers both front and rear. Make note of wher ethey are set if they are. Ide set the LPF to 120 as well. This way all the door speakers get 120 hz up and the sub does everything from 120 down.
On my stereo my radio defaults with the sub output off. If i unhook it, or i disconnect my battery or any power from my radio my amp output is OFF and i get no bass from it. Actually no SIGNAL to it. I have to manually go into the settings and turn the sub ON before i get any sound from it. All my othe rsettings are lost also. All my speakers go to "through" setting with it just full frequency no filtering. Also my phase swith goes back to default as well and im not sure where its at right now. Mine is a Kenwood though and they all pretty much have the same types of settings and the way they all work is simmilar.
|11-21-2013 12:32 AM|
|vlchenzo||oh btw, its a kenwood KDC-MP538U. that's what it says on the box lol 50 watts|
|11-21-2013 12:31 AM|
hmmmm. well since all my subwoofer requires me to do is plug one wire into the sub, and that same other end of the wire goes right into the back of the head unit. its like 2 pieces. I don't think theres much else I can do. I think I just need a bigger sub lol.
but today I was messing with my head unit a little more and I found out that I can set it to the size of my door speakers. it allowed me to select either (none) or (5x4) or (6x9). or (OEM). I think mine are 6x9. im not sure. their the stock speakers. it doesn't really change it much. it just changes the presets to sound better depending on the speaker size. idk. eh.
today I got my motor mounts replaced and my power steering pump. the pump was leaking to the point that I had no power steering fluid left. haha. the car is much quieter with the motor mounts replaced. I tried to find an aftermarket exhaust for the wagon but I couldn't find anything. I was so pissed. I wanted something that was more high flowing. so pissed. do you have an aftermarket exhaust?
|11-20-2013 10:59 PM|
What kenwood radio is it?
The radio is what im talking about that has a phase setting. It can send a reversed phase signal to the sub different from the door speakers.
Yours may already be set to the best bass sound or it could be in phase and then it seems to rob the bass.
WHen its set right its more effecient then it doesnt need as much power.
|11-20-2013 10:42 AM|
lol omg I feel the same way when I listen to my sub. I lean forward and im like hmmm it louder! then I move in the middle and listen. I go in the back seat. Its actually louder in the front seat. I thought that was strange. it sounds awesome if you sit in the trunk! haha. but who sits in the trunk? u cant drive in the trunk haha.
heres my sub. http://www.amazon.com/Bazooka-BTA850...t+bazooka+tube
its a 8 inch 50 watt one speaker sub. it has a built in amp. theres no settings on it. all there is, is a volume level knob on it haha. its ok. the door speakers would be perfect if my sub was just more powerfull. eh...oh well lol.
|11-20-2013 01:06 AM|
First does your sub have 1 or 2 speakers in it?
I think mine is 150 watts and i dont have alternator problems. Mine is just a small 10" as well.
I noticed mine didnt sound very good on default i had to run the sub out of phase with the rest of the speakers. I think kenwood calls this sub setting "normal, or reverse"
You can do a similar thing by reversing the wires to the sub.
If all your door speakers are say running + from the radio to + tot he speaker and - to - then you do the same to the sub the sub could be running in phase with the rest of the speakers and by the time the sound gets to you its be canceled out by the rest of the speakers. Sometimes moving the sub around in the trunk can change it, sometimes more people in the car or reversing its phase.
My amp also has a setting on it called "delay" i can adjust the delay on mine also this can help but the phase setting is enough for my setup.
What you do is sit in your car like you normaly do when driving, then you adjust it where your sitting. I notice mine will change if i lean forward and my ear is not in the sweet spot. Its really weird its like im getting a phase cancelation off the window or something.
Cars can be tricky to setup and sound good, you just have to play around with it and change things and keep trying different things.
|11-19-2013 12:49 PM|
thank you bowerR64. that was very helpful. oh I've played around with the equalizer alottt. haha. before i had a subwoofer i would turn the mids and the highs all the way down and put the bass all the way up and that made it have a lot of bass haha. but it was never really enough.
that's why i got the subwoofer. but its only a 50 watt bazooka tube. since its a wagon, the bass comes in really clear and nice. but i wish the sub was like 100 or 150 watts. it doesn't need to be like 700 800 watts. the 50 is pretty good, but i think if it were 100 or 150 i would def turn the bass all the way down on my door speakers and let the sub do all the work. but the sub really doesn't push out that much bass. :/
lol. oh well. mayb ill invest in a more powerfull sub. the only thing is i don't want to have to run all those wires to the battery and get one of those battery distributor things and have alternator problems lol.
i might take off the back door panel and hook up the new speaker and see how it sounds and if it isn't any different, ill just leave the stock ones on. the kenwood speakers i have are said to be peak 180 watts. rated at 30 watts. i think the stock ones are rated at like 6 watts. something like that. so the new ones HAVE to sound better, no? oh well. we'll see. haha. thanks for all the info though. it was very helpful.
|11-19-2013 12:46 AM|
Well the stock speaker IMO isnt really a speaker to crank up loud. Mine sounded good but the louder i pushed em the worse they sounded.
I think many low end speakers cant handle alot of power clean.
Your issues could be many things without looking at them its anyones guess.
They could be weather rotten, a window could of been broken out and rain could of damaged them, they could be torn from being cranked to loud, something could have fallen in and its touching the cone, the door could of been kicked and damaged.
Some speakers have a sort of shelf life. The cones usually hold up for many years. The part that breaks down on most is the suspension around the edge of the cone. Most are like foam rubber or something this part can dry rot crack and split. When that happens the cone has no control and it starts to flap around and distort quickly. When this happens your only real option is to replace them. You can try and fix it but ive never had any luck at that.
What about the settings on your head unit? Most of the newer radios ive messed with have an electronic crossover in them to allow you to cut some of the low end out. These arnt woofers, they arnt designed to pound a ton of bass like a 12" driver they have limits.
IMO the key to a good sounding radio is finding that sweet spot your radio. amp and speakers sound best. I dont feel the need to try and get lots of bass from my door speakers thats the job of my sub so i cross mine about 100-150 and i let the sub handle everything under that.
The higher i cross mine the louder i can turn them up before they start to sound muddy. I think mine are at 120 or 150 i cant remember its been a while since i messed with that part of my head unit.
My radio also has this setting called "speaker size" if you play with that also it can change the curves of the sound. Sometimes a different speaker size can bring the best out of a certain speaker.
In the early days of car stereo you had to get a ton of different equipment to cross speakers over so they sounded good loud now days everything is built into the head unit so you really should dig into the settings and play with the radio settings. This can save you money, the proper radio setting is free so take the time to adjust it and see if they sound better.
Any more you can get away with running all 4 door speakers off the head unit and 1 amp and sub can give you an AMAZING sounding system. The stuff is so cheap now also
|11-18-2013 02:21 PM|
I am wondering if my 2003 ford focus wagon has the same speaker setup. i have a kenwood headunit and all stock speakers. my front speakers come in clear, but when i push the rear speakers too much, they become muffled. i wonder why. i have a set of 2 kenwood speakers and im thinking of replacing the rear muffled speakers.
does anyone have any takes on this idea? is it worth it?
|10-09-2013 01:29 AM|
I had a sub in my car and run a pioneer head unit which has the sub control and hpf/lpf built in I clear all the base from my door speakers and send all the base to the back, reverting swears I have aftermarket speakers and I really don't.
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