|Today 10:09 AM|
Bought a 2000 Focus SE Wagon VTEC with 120k on the clock in January. I joined today to give a shout out to everyone who has posted their experience, especially OP for the original codes and troubleshooting advice.
I left the car with my son until March. Due to a work transfer I needed to drive it from Ca to Ohio by March 22. I arrived Friday the 13th planning to leave Sunday for a leisurely cross country...
On saturday afternoon my son drove us cross town for some shopping and I noted the enigne RPM very high and the emotion light set. I found this forum in January when fixing the "cruise control inop due to third light wiring issue" (nailed it) and got the hit for the transmission. I asked my son if the light had come on before and he said, "Yeah on and off all the time." Basically he had driven it mostly on the freeway with no OD! Also when the emotion light is set the cars slips the 3-4 shift.
So I delay the trip start to Tuesday ad get a Sol A and FIlter kit. I replace it on Sunday and the fault clears. An early poster reused his fluid and I did the same - bad idea... In hindsight my son put on about 2,000 miles with no OD and had cooked the fluid. It was not really a good pink color but kinda dark. A reaxamination of the first filter showed it pretty dirty but no metal (thank God!)
Monday afternoon the emotion light comes on again and this time it sets the check engine light and the Sol A code. I reset my trip to Thursday and Tuesday replace Sol A, Filter kit and fluid. I also buy a Sol C (a $200 one) because it is implicated in the 3-4 shift.
I ended up not putting the Sol C in and returned it to the Ford dealer.
The faults clear but Wednesday evening I get the emotion light, no OD and slipping 3-4 shift. I learned that shutting the car off and restarting it clears the emotion light and the tranny is normal. I buy another Sol A, filter kit and fluid and decide that if it recurrs on the trip I would do the job in a hotel parking lot. I had to be in Cinci by Monday for work.
Well 2500 miles and all went well. I noticed that thhe emotion light seems related to letting the car slow down, downshifting and then accelerating "moderately" - This happened once on the trip in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma. I pulled over shut off and restarted and it cleared.
It still slips from 3-4 under medium acceleration, does not do it under slower/normal accel or under hard accel although it hits the shift hard.
When I get settled into housing here I will likely do the Sol A, Filter and fluid again. I think things got gunked up with 2,000 of no OD driving. If that doesn't clear the slipping shift (and bury the emotion light fault for good) I wll probably do Sol C and see if that does it. It is so easy to open the pan up I will hold rebuying the $200 Sol C in reserve.
I also have the "key won't come out of ignition" issue when it's cold so will likely open up the shft console and check out the solenoid connection and mechanical setup. If all is good I will likely get a replacement shifter. Haven't had the "key won't turn in ignition" one yet but may do that proactively.
These 4 issues (tranny, key won't come out, key won't turn and no cruise control) seem like the top 4 and are worth fixing. On the plus side the Focus did 2500 miles in 4 days, was great and comfortable to drive 8-10 hours a day and got 30mpg on every fill up - Very happy with my used Focus!
|04-16-2015 05:40 AM|
Look at the solenoid apply chart there, A, B, and C are all OFF in 1 and 2, they are not doing anything, not gonna do much there with new ones..............all would have to be stuck on and odds of that astronomical.
You don't mention whether 4th (OD) is working............
Could be possibly solenoid E only, and even more so if you put the car into MANUAL 1st and it's not working too. Manual 1st is 1 on the shifter not D. Sol. E must be working ON for D1 and D2 and M1 to work.
Almost has to be a solenoid, there is no single or combination of mechanical fails that can do that particular combo of lost gears other than very long shots.
|04-15-2015 06:43 PM|
You have no 1st and 2nd....hmmmm? I am not sure. Any other symptoms? Reverse ok? Check engine light (CEL)? Have you had the car OBD scanned for codes? Ever changed the fluid? Fluid level ok now? EDIT: Some shops offer a free diag, test drive, repair est, or code reading.
|04-15-2015 06:07 PM|
|2005focus||I Drive a 2005 ford focus zx4 ses, w/auto trans. I have lost 1st and 2nd gear, but still have 3rd gear. After driving for a few miles the O/D light will start to flash.if i replace a,b, and c solenoid will this solve my problem?|
|04-05-2015 12:34 AM|
|amc49||Not like that there ain't.............|
|04-04-2015 10:43 AM|
|04-02-2015 11:41 PM|
|amc49||Trans is on its' way to dying there. Too much and big pieces of metal. Beginning to shell out right now. Copper is a support bushing grinding up. Then shells and drums tilt to tear up quick after that.|
|04-02-2015 09:42 PM|
4f27e - Album on Imgur
|04-02-2015 09:28 PM|
Filings size residue is bad, should only be like dark clutch material in extremely small pieces and sediment formed of ground metal. Bigger pieces are imminent fail coming up, the end cover wears a lot to do that but any bearing in trans can do it too, there are like 15 separate needle roller bearings that if only one comes apart does major damage.
End cover issue affects reverse then direct clutch (3rd gear)................
|04-02-2015 02:20 PM|
My 4f27e seems to be acting up. It seems like the classic shift solenoid A issue described in this thread, but I have no check engine lights. The car wont shift past second and reverse also does not work. This happened suddenly.
I checked the resistance on all of the solenoids and they appear to be in spec. I then dropped the pan and pulled solenoid A and B out of the valve body. I hooked them up to a 12V source (grounded through the mounting bracket). Neither solenoid appeared to 'click'. Am I testing these incorrectly? I find it hard to believe they both went back at the same time.
Also there were a lot of fillings in my transmission pan as well as some larger 'shavings' (still fairly small-ish). Is this cause for concern?
Before this happened my transmission had been making noise in 1st and 2nd gear, but was still shifting ok. Probably related in some way, but maybe not. Noise was there in 1st, faint in 2nd, and gone by 3rd. I was told this could be a bearing in the planetary gearset.
Any help would be appreciated.
PS: 140k on the clock, ~60k since last service of the tranny fluid
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