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09-30-2014 09:59 PM
MassFocus627 i smell salsa
03-05-2014 06:14 AM
BowerR64 IMO its food for thought. If your looking to rebuild the system i wouldnt start with the factory speakers. I would hold off and replace a different part of the system.

I would repace the speakers last. With a good head unit you can cross the stock speakers over using them more for midrange wich IMO they are perfect for midrange.
03-04-2014 12:45 PM
block As for the first page of plots, 3dB is twice the sound level don't forget. And at higher levels, I bet the factory speakers will have more distortion, if they don't "blow up" altogether. My 2013 SE's audio system sounds pretty bad.
11-21-2013 02:19 AM
BowerR64 The model # of the bazooka tube you gave me shows it has a built in amp and that requires 3 power wires +- and remote.

And either 2 RCA or 4 high level input wires right?

Who installed it?

You radio has the settings im talking about.

Ide set your HPF (high pass filter) to 120 for the stock speakers both front and rear. Make note of wher ethey are set if they are. Ide set the LPF to 120 as well. This way all the door speakers get 120 hz up and the sub does everything from 120 down.



On my stereo my radio defaults with the sub output off. If i unhook it, or i disconnect my battery or any power from my radio my amp output is OFF and i get no bass from it. Actually no SIGNAL to it. I have to manually go into the settings and turn the sub ON before i get any sound from it. All my othe rsettings are lost also. All my speakers go to "through" setting with it just full frequency no filtering. Also my phase swith goes back to default as well and im not sure where its at right now. Mine is a Kenwood though and they all pretty much have the same types of settings and the way they all work is simmilar.
11-21-2013 12:32 AM
vlchenzo oh btw, its a kenwood KDC-MP538U. that's what it says on the box lol 50 watts
11-21-2013 12:31 AM
vlchenzo hmmmm. well since all my subwoofer requires me to do is plug one wire into the sub, and that same other end of the wire goes right into the back of the head unit. its like 2 pieces. I don't think theres much else I can do. I think I just need a bigger sub lol.

but today I was messing with my head unit a little more and I found out that I can set it to the size of my door speakers. it allowed me to select either (none) or (5x4) or (6x9). or (OEM). I think mine are 6x9. im not sure. their the stock speakers. it doesn't really change it much. it just changes the presets to sound better depending on the speaker size. idk. eh.

today I got my motor mounts replaced and my power steering pump. the pump was leaking to the point that I had no power steering fluid left. haha. the car is much quieter with the motor mounts replaced. I tried to find an aftermarket exhaust for the wagon but I couldn't find anything. I was so pissed. I wanted something that was more high flowing. so pissed. do you have an aftermarket exhaust?
11-20-2013 10:59 PM
BowerR64 What kenwood radio is it?

The radio is what im talking about that has a phase setting. It can send a reversed phase signal to the sub different from the door speakers.

Yours may already be set to the best bass sound or it could be in phase and then it seems to rob the bass.

WHen its set right its more effecient then it doesnt need as much power.
11-20-2013 10:42 AM
vlchenzo lol omg I feel the same way when I listen to my sub. I lean forward and im like hmmm it louder! then I move in the middle and listen. I go in the back seat. Its actually louder in the front seat. I thought that was strange. it sounds awesome if you sit in the trunk! haha. but who sits in the trunk? u cant drive in the trunk haha.

heres my sub. http://www.amazon.com/Bazooka-BTA850...t+bazooka+tube

its a 8 inch 50 watt one speaker sub. it has a built in amp. theres no settings on it. all there is, is a volume level knob on it haha. its ok. the door speakers would be perfect if my sub was just more powerfull. eh...oh well lol.
11-20-2013 01:06 AM
BowerR64 First does your sub have 1 or 2 speakers in it?

I think mine is 150 watts and i dont have alternator problems. Mine is just a small 10" as well.

I noticed mine didnt sound very good on default i had to run the sub out of phase with the rest of the speakers. I think kenwood calls this sub setting "normal, or reverse"

You can do a similar thing by reversing the wires to the sub.

If all your door speakers are say running + from the radio to + tot he speaker and - to - then you do the same to the sub the sub could be running in phase with the rest of the speakers and by the time the sound gets to you its be canceled out by the rest of the speakers. Sometimes moving the sub around in the trunk can change it, sometimes more people in the car or reversing its phase.

My amp also has a setting on it called "delay" i can adjust the delay on mine also this can help but the phase setting is enough for my setup.

What you do is sit in your car like you normaly do when driving, then you adjust it where your sitting. I notice mine will change if i lean forward and my ear is not in the sweet spot. Its really weird its like im getting a phase cancelation off the window or something.

Cars can be tricky to setup and sound good, you just have to play around with it and change things and keep trying different things.
11-19-2013 12:49 PM
vlchenzo thank you bowerR64. that was very helpful. oh I've played around with the equalizer alottt. haha. before i had a subwoofer i would turn the mids and the highs all the way down and put the bass all the way up and that made it have a lot of bass haha. but it was never really enough.

that's why i got the subwoofer. but its only a 50 watt bazooka tube. since its a wagon, the bass comes in really clear and nice. but i wish the sub was like 100 or 150 watts. it doesn't need to be like 700 800 watts. the 50 is pretty good, but i think if it were 100 or 150 i would def turn the bass all the way down on my door speakers and let the sub do all the work. but the sub really doesn't push out that much bass. :/

lol. oh well. mayb ill invest in a more powerfull sub. the only thing is i don't want to have to run all those wires to the battery and get one of those battery distributor things and have alternator problems lol.

i might take off the back door panel and hook up the new speaker and see how it sounds and if it isn't any different, ill just leave the stock ones on. the kenwood speakers i have are said to be peak 180 watts. rated at 30 watts. i think the stock ones are rated at like 6 watts. something like that. so the new ones HAVE to sound better, no? oh well. we'll see. haha. thanks for all the info though. it was very helpful.
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