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12-31-2012 07:48 AM
nuttyamy
Trouble Starting

I am new to here and had no idea how to post a new issue. Here goes:

Why isn't my starting unless I have my foot pressed on the accelerator? I'm worried that this is going to flood the engine or something.

In the last 2 weeks I have had new spark plugs, battery, cat, expansion tank and thermostat and lambda sensor. Have had the vacuum hose removed and a temporary one put on until I can get a new one. The idle problems that I did have (car shaking when stopped at lights etc) are now not a problem unless it is when I am just starting the car and I no longer have fault codes.

But I'm worried that if I keep having to start the car like this, it will cause more damage. When it eventually starts this way, the revs go straight up to around 3000 and I have to wait for them to drop before I put the car in gear otherwise it cuts out again (sometimes if it doesn't cut out, it jumps forward when I put it into gear).

It is a 2001 ford focus 1.6 zetec petrol automatic
12-16-2010 08:21 PM
iroc34
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Originally Posted by moesco View Post
anyone had trouble with there ignition of a ford focus, 1.8 LX. when i try to start my car, it cuts out and i put my foot on the gas pedal when starting ignition its tick along but i took my foot away from gas pedal car cuts out. i try give a bit of gas still wont start and few hours later i try again, start ignition with my foot pedal on the gas its fine and give couple of day car playing up again.I have replace, sparks plugs including leads, oil filter, air and drain oil and replace it
please help
Sounds like you have the same symptoms. Check you PCV hoses. From front to back...
12-16-2010 08:19 PM
iroc34
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Originally Posted by steve113 View Post
I have noticed a breather pipe seems to be all flat squashed and perished the one back of inlet manifold would that have anything do with it ?
YES . If it the PCV hose. It comes from the front of the engine. Right behind the exhaust manifold, out of the PCV valve. Make a 90* turn to the left and connects to a hard tube. Then a soft tube again , as it make a left 90* turn again towards the intake mani. Right at that turn the hose usually gets soft and collapses or just falls apart. It will definetely cause your problems.
12-16-2010 05:07 PM
steve113
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Originally Posted by moesco View Post
anyone had trouble with there ignition of a ford focus, 1.8 LX. when i try to start my car, it cuts out and i put my foot on the gas pedal when starting ignition its tick along but i took my foot away from gas pedal car cuts out. i try give a bit of gas still wont start and few hours later i try again, start ignition with my foot pedal on the gas its fine and give couple of day car playing up again.I have replace, sparks plugs including leads, oil filter, air and drain oil and replace it
please help
i have same car and very similar problems with my car but cant get to the bottom of it i will let u know if i do and if u find out please let me know cheers
12-16-2010 04:19 PM
moesco anyone had trouble with there ignition of a ford focus, 1.8 LX. when i try to start my car, it cuts out and i put my foot on the gas pedal when starting ignition its tick along but i took my foot away from gas pedal car cuts out. i try give a bit of gas still wont start and few hours later i try again, start ignition with my foot pedal on the gas its fine and give couple of day car playing up again.I have replace, sparks plugs including leads, oil filter, air and drain oil and replace it
please help
12-16-2010 02:03 PM
steve113
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Originally Posted by iroc34 View Post
The IAC ( idle air circuit or control) valve is under the intake manifold. You can remove it and clean it with carb and choke cleaner. Easiest way is from under neath the car. Jack the front end up and put on Jack stands. If I remember there are two 10 mm bolts holding it to the intake. And you can reuse the gasket again if you are careful. But it would be good insurance to get a spare. Before you disable the car. It wont run with the iac out..
I have noticed a breather pipe seems to be all flat squashed and perished the one back of inlet manifold would that have anything do with it ?
12-16-2010 10:15 AM
iroc34 The IAC ( idle air circuit or control) valve is under the intake manifold. You can remove it and clean it with carb and choke cleaner. Easiest way is from under neath the car. Jack the front end up and put on Jack stands. If I remember there are two 10 mm bolts holding it to the intake. And you can reuse the gasket again if you are careful. But it would be good insurance to get a spare. Before you disable the car. It wont run with the iac out..
12-16-2010 09:56 AM
madisonHQ I have the same problem sometimes, at times it will start right up but after a cold night tapping the accelerator is needed to give the car a push into start heaven !!! should be a minor issue... G L
12-16-2010 08:14 AM
steve113
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Originally Posted by spayne13 View Post
Have you cleaned the idle air control valve as well? This valve is a bypass around the throttle body, and can accumulate gunk and stick in the wrong position, causing idle and/or starting problems. The fact that depressing the gas pedal helps overcome the starting problem indicates this valve may be causing issues. Does the car idle OK, or does it have idle issues?
Hi no i have not cleaned idle air control valve were is this and whats best to clean it with would carb cleaner be any good .car idles ok when warm but when cold and coming to a junction and i dip the clutch the revs go up to 2 rpm and holds for a few seconds before dropping back down to normal but only when cold first 5 minutes of driving
12-16-2010 08:09 AM
steve113
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Originally Posted by iroc34 View Post
OK if I am understanding you correctly. The engine is cranking over but wont start. Then after you hit the gas pedal it will start right up, and every time after that. Try this. The first time you go to start , turn the key to on, not crank position, and listen for the fuel pump, ( a humming or whining sound) should last a couple of seconds. It pumps up fuel pressure. Sound like you are losing your prime. silly question but is the fuel filter pointing in the correct direction. It will have an arrow on it...
Hi yes fuel filter is pointing right way as i did all these changes as having the problem since we noticed when changing cam belt that fuel was leaking from the pipe with the chrome circle regulator attached to fuel pipes( under the bonnet near cam belt side) so i replaced the pipe with regulator on but stopped fuel leak but caused the starting problem so i swapped back to original faulty pipe and chrome circle regulator but still have problem . checked no fuel leaks cant hear any vacuum leaks
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