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06-19-2010 07:31 AM
1turbofocus Your to close to that turn , Rotate the pipe (cut out the 3 inch) and move the MAF electronics to the center of the 3 inch and try that

The newer slim MAF is much more sensitive about placement , I also feel with moving it you will have better driveability and transition

06-18-2010 11:12 PM
sutyak Thanks again to Tom for his help with my tune.
I have the SCT Pro Racer Package, and it was great to see how Tom tunes first-hand.
I approve 100% of how he does his tuning, and would recommend him to anyone.

Now, as for my 3" MAF issue: I could only get it to work properly when I used the stock air straightener and tuned it open loop.
For whatever reason it will not run well when attempting to use both the MAF and STFT.
Now it's running quite well and making more power than ever.

The reason I couldn't get a good reading from the 3" MAF was due to my pipe configuration.
Even though I had 10"+ of straight 3" pipe before the MAF there was a 2.5" 90* bend before that which opens up to the 3" pipe.
My BOV is mounted in that 90* bend, which also causes turbulence.

If I removed the MAF from the bend and ran it open it would idle and rev fine.
As soon as I put the MAF back the idle went erratic and the car would stumble like crazy.
The air straighter helped considerably, but still wasn't enough until I tuned it in open loop.


Air straightener:
06-12-2010 08:28 PM
sutyak Kudos to Tom for the assistance. He's really going out of his way to help me out.
06-12-2010 06:54 PM
1turbofocus My IM is hpdyno on AOL and if I have questions your there to answer

06-12-2010 05:09 PM
sutyak OK. Want me to email it to you? I need your email.
06-12-2010 04:53 PM
1turbofocus just send me what you have , then we can go from there

06-12-2010 03:31 PM
sutyak Thanks Tom, you don't know how much I appreciate it.
Let me know what you'd like to see in the logs.
I probably wasn't monitoring as much as you would even though I saved my log, so I'll need to do more logging real quick.
06-12-2010 03:28 PM
1turbofocus I dont mind helping but would need to see some datalogs

My IM is hpdyno on AOL

06-12-2010 03:22 PM
sutyak Picture of the new MAF tube:
Help appreciated!

06-12-2010 01:23 PM
sutyak Working on the tune now...
FYI, I have 55# injectors.
I took my previous tune which ran/idled fine and reset the values that were changed specifically for the MAFia (IM volume, engine displacement, FI high slope, FI low slope).
I also reloaded the MTF table back to stock, then multiplied by 1.50.
I have not fine-tuned the MTF because I haven't driven anywhere yet.

Right now the STFT is fantastic, but my idle is sputtering around 800-1000 RPMs, not drastic like there was a vac leak, but very "rough".
There is also some roughness when holding the throttle steady open.
So let's just say there's roughness across the board.

Any help appreciated.

Seems as if I've missed some injector settings or displacement/manifold adjustment somewhere.
Doesn't seem to be any vac leaks.


For troubleshooting purposes, here are the things I changed not dealing with the tune:
- New pipe from FMIC to throttle body: 2.5" out of IC for appx 90* and then to 3" to throttle body (2.75").
- MAF is positioned after around 10" of straight 3" pipe.
- Moved the coolant expansion tank to make room for the air filter and new ambient pipe (2.5").
- Cut off most of the bracket which the expansion tank mounted to, but maintained a section for the ground cable.
- Removed the evap canister (I believe that's what it's called) to repair a broken nipple, which was previously causing a vac leak.
- Had the turbo fitted with a larger compressor wheel and the housing machined.
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