|12-12-2015 10:27 AM|
|Fuelish1||I didn't bother taking my lower dash face off, just got up in there, took down fuse holder, replaced relay, reinstalled fuse holder. Not a problem, luckily had appropriate sized tools to not be cumbersome - was only having a problem with the single swipe (had to hold switch entire swipe) and the blade parking - easy fix|
|12-12-2015 04:15 AM|
I used the "bend and replace" method someone mentioned below. You'll need to use a small pair of vicegrip type pliers to get a grip on the sheetmetal....takes some muscle to pull the metal out far enough to get the right relay out.
Then once the right one is out...you bend some more in order to get the left one out.
Even then is isn't all that easy.
Seems to have fixed the wiper issue for the front....problems parking and also a tendency to just start "creeping" with no input.
Did not help the rear wiper...had already redone the wiring back there...but this repair failed after a few months.
One again FocusFanatics comes to the rescue..... Rock on...
Paid around $16 for 2 relays...so prices have gone up.
|11-10-2015 02:30 PM|
This fixed my problem :)
Thanks for the great information on the wiper-relays. I just bought a 2004 Focus, and it didn't park the wiper the way it should.
Just like more people here confirmed, exchanging the front and rear wiper relays fixed it. Now front and back work fine.
Thanks! I just joined the forum to mention this, and I guess I'll stick around here :)
|05-19-2015 02:56 PM|
I need to give head nods and credit where due, to both users sailor, for pointing me to this thread and providing some additional advice, and to mister_bin, for providing this write-up showing and telling where and how to get the job done. Thank you both.
I was actually able, through sailor's suggestion, to get the relay replaced without having to do as much dismantling, so I figured I should share that experience. If you're like me and don't have Lou Ferrigno arms, it's not too difficult to get your hand and some forearm through the fuse panel doorway and also get to the fuse panel from the underside of the dash.
I loosened the two bolts holding the fuse panel to the metal bracket, and pressed in the plastic tabs to get the panel to slide back some, but not totally removed...just enough to give me clearance to get the relay out of the panel. A pair of large/long needle-nose pliers gets the relay out very easily, and once all pins are out of the panel you just have to maneuver the relay in a way that lets you get it out of there.
For replacement, I maneuvered the new one in place and pressed it in as much as I could without pressing the fuse panel out of place. I gently pulled the panel back into place so the tabs would snap back in, and this effectively finished pushing the relay in most of the way. Once the panel was back in place I finished pressing the relay in fully, replaced the bracket bolts, tested the wipers out to make sure everything worked properly, and put the panel door back in place. The whole process took about 5 minutes and my wipers now park and do single wipes properly.
|04-14-2015 02:02 PM|
britcan, the Ford part number for the relay is in the first and 17th post of this thread, with various aftermarket sources throughout this well detailed thread.
I hope you read it all...
|04-14-2015 01:01 PM|
|britcan||I have the 2004 focus and so I'm 99% certain the replacing of the relay will sort out my issues. My problem is finding a relay. Does anyone have a part number for the silent relay that has been mentioned? The local parts suppliers don't have anything listed for a relay and my local Ford dealership wants to know the part number of the unit I'm replacing (but my wife has the car at work at the moment). Any help would be appreciated. Thank you.|
|03-02-2015 07:46 PM|
I'm gonna start with these and test it all if its unresponsive. I'll get results & pics either way.
|03-02-2015 11:59 AM|
|mr focus 209||Easy fix. 10 mins from start to finish. I found a replacement switch on Amazon (less than $10 dollars). Wipers work like a champ.|
|02-07-2015 07:28 PM|
So I thought I would summarize the results of my troubleshooting the lack of intermittent wipers on my 07 Focus. I do not have intermittent operation (not even park; it just stops when I release the stalk,) nor the automatic wiping function that follows using windshield squirt.
I replaced the stalk assembly with a new one first. Did not fix.
I replaced the GEM (Generic Electronics Module) with one from eBay. Did not fix.
I replaced the motor with a rebuilt unit. Did not fix. Interestingly, it did not park at all in single swipe mode, whereas the original one still does.
Why didn't I go replace the wiper motor relay? Well, I'm not so sure one even exists on this model year. My car doesn't have one in the location noted for earlier models; my Ford factory wiring diagram from Helms shows one in the circuits, but the component locator in the very same book says there isn't one. All the Ford parts books show none exist. The only evidence that one _might_ exist is the wiring diagram.
The only other time I've been this electrically challenged was an 84BMW 733i with bad instruments. Came at the problem from both ends (according to the wiring diagram) and found the paths never met. Error in the wiring diagram. Turned out to be a missing fuse. This problem is also an error in the wiring diagram, but not knowing what the GEM does exactly is rendering my troubleshooting even more difficult.
At this point I'm down to paying the dealer top dollar for a tough troubleshooting job or I do it myself. I don't have time or the willingness to try and figure out what the problem is right now. I can live without intermittent wipers (somewhat, I live in the Seattle area and have a long commute) but the error in the diagram means I'm in for a seriously tough job.
As to others' problems with their wipers, I was really fond of the old Hayne's manuals, but Chiltons, who made lesser quality manuals, bought out Haynes, and the result is a manual not near as good as Haynes, but better than the old Chiltons. Unless I spring for the factory maintenance manual, this is good enough for most jobs. The wiring diagrams aren't as detailed as the Haynes or the factory diagrams, but they're fairly close unless you have an oddball problem like mine. If you intend to do wrench turning of any kind, you owe it to yourself to get at the minimum, the current Chilton's manual for your car.
|01-10-2015 01:01 PM|
I don't know if it is related to the front wiper problem!!
Please keep us posted :)
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