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08-31-2004 10:13 PM
blackzx3_13 I have, a friend that auto-x's a miata with me let me put his on my car for a run, it easily installs with hand tools, and it really held me in place. As soon as i can find another job, im buying one.
08-31-2004 03:39 PM
Egz I haven't, but I've heard some nice things about it.
08-31-2004 02:02 PM
WD40 Thanks for the info.
Looks like I'll ditch the "Latch" idea.

I did bring some other information with me today.
Check out CG-Lock.com.
This is what I was talking about for the stock belts.
At least, it's a step in the right direction.
Anyone ever used one?
08-31-2004 05:53 AM
Mr Orange SVT
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Originally posted by WD40
This is quite the timely thread.
Still trying to figure out a convenient mount for the front 2 points though.
The convenient mount point for the lap belts are the bolts that hold the stock lap belts to the frame. Just replace with eye bolts and you have removable belts.

Another note on this. At the last event I was at there was a guy there with a Focus with as set of Sparco belts where the "y" ent of the belts just used the stock buckle insert. In other words, snap in , snap out. Just another idea.
08-30-2004 10:25 PM
Egz
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Originally posted by WD40

OK, what I'm starting to deduce, (as I want the 4 point to be removeable).
Can't you use the "latch" points in the back for the shoulder belts?
Those would be the mounting points for child safety seats.
Seems it would be easy to use a climbing caribiner for easy mount/dismount to those "latch" points.
Still trying to figure out a convenient mount for the front 2 points though.
No, you cannot. The LATCH system was only engineered for 25-60 or so pounds. The force you'll create on it in a wrech is more than enough to deform or break it.
08-30-2004 09:51 PM
Mr Orange SVT I came up with a solution. I bought a set of Simpson belts, a Y-belt for the shoulder and the standard lap belt. They came with an eye that I use to replace the bolt that holds in the stock belts. I've changed the ends of the Simpsons so they snap in and out. This still leaves my stock belts in place and I can easily install the 4 points when I go to an event. It cost me about $130 for the set up.
08-30-2004 07:17 PM
WD40 This is quite the timely thread.
Had a 2 day AutoCross this weekend in Great Falls.
Was looking at a lot of the different setups for 4 points.
Unfortunately, there were no other "Foci" present.

OK, what I'm starting to deduce, (as I want the 4 point to be removeable).
Can't you use the "latch" points in the back for the shoulder belts?
Those would be the mounting points for child safety seats.
Seems it would be easy to use a climbing caribiner for easy mount/dismount to those "latch" points.
Still trying to figure out a convenient mount for the front 2 points though.


On the other hand....
Has anyone tried the locks for standard seat belts?
Don't have a link, (or the proper name), but I'll bring in the info tomorrow.
It's a device that locks the belt, so it doesn't loosen up.
I'm getting really tired of using the twist/wrap method to keep my belt tight.
(twisting the buckle a couple times, then latching it)
It works, but I've heard it's a quick ticket to a broken collar bone if you hit anything.

BTW,
Thanks for bringing this up, blackzx3_13.
08-30-2004 06:11 PM
blackzx3_13 There is a Silver SVT that autocrosses with me, and he has a 4 point belt, and he has it mounted like the pic in the post above. The two top belts go behind the seat and down where the back rest and the seat part of the rear seat come together. I believe that their just bolted to the floor, but I havent had a chance to look at it up close.
08-23-2004 09:24 PM
Egz True, but they form more of a 45-60 degree angle. Not best, but better than straight down.


http://www.soloracer.com/harnschrothfaq.html
08-23-2004 07:08 PM
all motor are you talking about the rear seat bolts on the floor? i though harnesses were supposed to be secured at the level of shoulder height, or else they kind of push you down when tightened..
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