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11-24-2012 05:34 AM
Ladybugg Hi! Where exactly do I find a "how to" on remote start/alarms?
I have a viper system that I am interested in installing myself

Thanks!
07-29-2007 03:36 PM
ukscarface
Help Help Help!!

I am in desperate need of help. when i wired in my alarm i am trying to get the system to unlock itself, the lock feature works a treat but when i try to unlock all i manage to do is unlock the boot release, i know that the door unlock and trunk are both using the same wire (black/Yellow) so i assume i might need a relay or somthing, anyone had this poblem and overcome?? any ideas appreciated, i have tried for days now!!! HELP HELP HELP! danny.hathaway@ntlworld.com ford replies direct please thanks in advance
05-28-2005 09:16 PM
briandg510 Captain(brain): Start the car soldier.
Soldier(thumb): Yes, captain. Press the start button.
Car: Cranks and vroom.
Soldier: Car is ready captain.
Captain: Good work, soldier.

I'm just happy. Everything is working! Thanks for the help of everyone especially John.

There is a how to program a key in the owner's manual. It is page 76.
05-28-2005 12:18 PM
SQFocusZTS try programming the key using the ignition key cylinder....

so, put key 1 in, turn it to 'on', wait for light to go off, shut car off (you have a 10 second window between keys)

put key 2 in, turn it to 'on', wait for light to go off, shut car off (same 10 second window)

put freshly cut key in, and START the vehicle.

if you purchased the correct key, the car should start and stay running. you have successfully programmed a 3rd key.

now, if you want to make sure youre remote start works w/o using the bypass module, do this trick ---

stick a GOOD key in the ignition but do not turn the cylinder... just stick it in. then, activate the remote start. if your wiring is correct, the vehicle WILL remote start. deactivate the remote start. take a key and put it in the bypass module.

if you're having trouble getting it started reliably, my suggestion is to make sure the antenna 'ring' is closer to the ignition key hole than the factory ring

the bypass module wiring looks good.

re: starter kill...

the blue wire gets connected to the ignition wire of the vehicle. what happens is, when you ARM the alarm. the ORANGE ['connect to orange wire of alarm'] wire goes to ground. currently, the starter wire is still connected through the pins 87a and 30 on the relay. the blue wire on the relay goes to the ignition wire for this simple reason:

lets say the thief gains acess to your interior, and tries (and successfully) gets a screwdriver to turn your ignition to the ON position. well, when the ignition wire gets energized, the relay also energizes BREAKING the contact between 87a and 30, thus not allowing the starter to crank... this is true even if you have the ignition key. once the key is turned back from off (or screwdriver or whatever), the relay will click 'off' and teh starter wire will be reconnected. you follow this ?


-john
SQF
05-28-2005 01:07 AM
briandg510 The alarm is now working except for the Remote Starter...

I got the Transponder keys cut. I was trying to program it but failed.
I did this :

1) put key #1 in the ignition, and turn the key forward (do not start vehicle) wait for (!) light
to go off. remove key

2) put key #2 in the ignition, turn key, wait for (!) to go off. remove key.

3) put the new cut key in the ignition and turn it on.

I think my third step is wrong. Do I have to just insert it without turning it on and wait a few seconds and take it out?

Or maybe I wired my Bypass Module wrong. This is what I did...



I connected the Blue/Black of the 9 pin connector to the White/Green of the Bypass Module and I connected the Yellow/Green of the B/M to the 12V constant(RED WIRE). Now, is my wiring correct for B/M?

I also have question about my wiring for the starter disable. I followed this diagram...


I connected everything as shown, but I am uncertain to where the blue wire goes. I did connect the blue wire of the relay to the Green/Yellow(Ignition1) of the Ignition switch harness. Did I do the wiring correctly?
05-20-2005 01:02 PM
briandg510 I did diode isolate them as you instructed me. Thanks for the professional help you gave me(& to others who have read this thread). I'll post (more) question when any problem arises.
05-20-2005 09:47 AM
SQFocusZTS few comments...

if you found both door triggers, without diode isolating them, you may cause problems with the door circuit. possibly when armed, this will inadvertantly set your alarm off. in other vehicles it does different (more crazy stuff. ie if you open your drivers door, the car thinks you opened a passenger rear door)

programming a 3rd key is pretty easy. i would take the key and get it cut (anywhere they cut keys), that way you have a spare ignition key. the one that you want to use for remote start...don't get it cut.

their programming instructions should be similar to this:

*place spare key in universal bypass module. place antenna ring around ignition cylinder. connect wiring to remote start.

*put key #1 in the ignition, and turn the key forward (do not start vehicle) wait for (!) light to go off. remove key

*put key #2 in the ignition, turn key, wait for (!) to go off. remove key.

*activate the remote start.

since the ring of the universal bypass is around the ignition, it transfers the encoded chipped signal down to the key thats in the universal box. however, good placement of the antenna will be critical. if the key was cut and you could put it in your ignition, it would maybe be less time consuming?


regarding where you have it mounted/hanging. yes, i realize there are a lot of wires, and i know this was your first install... but for next time, plans things out better. the first place a theif is going to look to disable an alarm system is under the drivers side dash. so, hopefully all your wires are taped or loomed such that they don't give off any hints to where things may be found.


-john
SQF
05-20-2005 02:34 AM
briandg510 Got it!

All I'm waiting for are the keys I ordered at ebay. I'm just gonna follow what Bulldog wrote on their site on how to program a key using the B/M.

I did not mount the R/S alarm module on the firewall, I proly hang it together with the bunch of wires(Is this a good idea?).

First thing in the morning, I'll test the alarm. Hoping everything works.

Thanks John for the help.
05-18-2005 03:37 PM
SQFocusZTS re #1: for negative triggered door locks (ie. focus), the wire should have positive voltage when the door is closed (the door pin is pushed in). the wire should go to 0v (ground) when the door is open (the door pin is at its 'rest' state). therefore, strip back some of the insulation on the suspected wire. set the voltmeter to DC volts. place the red probe of the meter on this wire. place the black probe on a solid grounding point (no paint!). Assuming you're doing this with the door open, the correct wire will show 0v when the door is open, and when you push the plunger (from the door pin) inwards, it should show positive voltage. as mentioned in my above post, in my focus, it was around 4v (with the pin pushed in)

re #2: the trunk pin is also negative, so it will test the same was as the doors... positive voltage will be seen on the wire with the trunk closed, 0v when the trunk is open. i'm not looking at the information at the moment, but the wire is found at the light in the hatch/trunk. go from there.

re #3: how many ignition keys do you already have for the vehicle? if you have only one, the ONLY way to make a duplicate key is to have ford do it for you. if you have two keys already, then, using the bypass module you can program the new keys...

-john
SQF
05-18-2005 02:14 PM
briandg510 More questions...

1. How do I test the door lock and the door unlock wires?

I have a Voltmeter/Tester. There is only one BLACK/RED wire but still uncertain. There are two BLACK/YELLOW wires and I found that the one is for the DRIVER DOOR PIN and still uncertain about the other one if it is for the DOOR UNLOCK.

2. How do I find the TRUNK PIN wire? What is its specific color?

I just ordered a pair of TRANSPONDER KEYS at ebay($16 EACH). One for spare, the other for the BYPASS MODULE( I still have the 2 original keys). I was reading the BULLDOG SEC. ONLINE, and according to them, I don't need to cut it to use it for the B/M.

3. How do I do this? I only have understanding of programming the cut T/Keys. Someone please walk me through on how to do this.
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