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06-21-2006 11:18 AM
MVent
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Originally posted by chad_p71
you were running 15.5s easy with just that stuff?! What did you run before you adding that stuff?
Now that there done arguing ,

I hadn't taken my car to the track before doing those mod's. I think the AEM CAI improves driveability and not so much a power adder. The mount is a must. It keeps the car from banging the tranny and getting wheelhop.
06-21-2006 10:54 AM
Auto0utcast yes, the focuses all share the mtx 75(unless auto or svt) so BE VERY VERY CAREFUL when attempting to powershift a focus.
06-21-2006 09:34 AM
firemanfrank
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Originally posted by Auto0utcast
... powershifting isnt healthy either. will it improve track times.. without a doubt, but i dont want every 17 and 18 yr old kid that reads "powershift your car at the strip" to go out and try it, ruin their vehicle and be out of a ride because of it.
True. SO IF AT ALL POSSIBLE ...

When learning how to powershift, one should practice doing it on a vehicle that already has a trannie that's "on it's way out", or is "in need of repair/replacement". LOL

Me? I didn't have that luxury, so when I wanted to learn how to powershift some 20 years ago, I had to do it on a good trannie.

It was scary!

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... for that extra tenth or 2 ill just shift rather quickly while removing my foot from the gas for that split second and have a lil more peace of mind.
Yup. Powershifting will gain someone a 1/10 or two in the 1/4 mile, so each individual person has to weigh out the plus/minuses of doing it.

But I gotta tell 'ya something though, because I've been doing it for so long, that if I'm racing through the gears I would have to plan ahead NOT TO DO IT.

Otherwise, it just comes naturally for me now.

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some cars have better built drivetrains than others...
You're on a roll here A/O. Correct again! Different cars have different abilities as far as what their trannies can handle.

I remember when I was racing 5 liter Mustangs, that I eventually had to buy an aftermarket "beefed up" Borg Warner trannie. This was because the stock B/W trannie's torque rating limits were WAY too close to the amount of torque that my car was actually putting out.

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... the focus mtx75 isnt going to hold up to that kind of abuse at the dragstrip for very long.
Is that the same trannie that's in my ST Travis?

Man, I hope not ...
06-21-2006 04:21 AM
yellowbean00
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Originally posted by nomoreavril
keeping the gas down while shifting? thats new, must be some secret racer trick, i'm not gonna try it, i dont want to blow an engine.
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Its called WOT shifting I do it at the dragstrip so my boost would not drop.
06-21-2006 04:13 AM
awnuts As far as beating the hell out of your car it looks to me you need to get the feel of the lights.
The lights are the hardest thing to get right and if you snooze a millisecond you blow your reaction time.Practice getting out of the gate ontime and then think shifting.Consistency is what wins races. As for taking a stock daily driver down the track powershifting thats a crazy idea to me because the stock parts are not designed for that much abuse.I've ran many a stock car just for fun and never thought of beating it to death and not getting home. a fun thing to try with a stock car is bracket racing.You make a few practice passes and average your dial in time and try not to breakout.Basicly your racing against yourself and your consistency is what counts.Sometimes they will put another car in with you at the same dialup as yours. Bracket racing is not as hard on your car and you can still have fun. Heck I used a 76 duster once as a tow car for my 65 Nova.The Nova fuel pump gave out and I couldnt race it.so I took the lowly 6 cyl Duster down the track in bracket. I went home with a trophy for my day and my buddys and me had a great laugh all night. And if your lucky you go home with the trophy anyway if theres no one in your bracket to race. The whole thought is just have fun.
06-21-2006 03:18 AM
Auto0utcast im not going to deny that high rpm launches on slicks are a huge strain on a drivetrain but powershifting isnt healthy either. will it improve track times.. without a doubt, but i dont want every 17 and 18 yr old kid that reads "powershift your car at the strip" to go out and try it, ruin their vehicle and be out of a ride because of it. for that extra tenth or 2 ill just shift rather quickly while removing my foot from the gas for that split second and have a lil more peace of mind. some cars have better built drivetrains than others...the focus mtx75 isnt going to hold up to that kind of abuse at the dragstrip for very long. have i power shifted. yes i sure as shit have... have i blown trannys doin it.. ya damn right i have.. will i do it again...highly doubt it... cant afford 2600$ to keep replacing the transmission everytime i make a bad decision to drive like that.
06-21-2006 03:03 AM
HalfTime I've bean drag racing saince I was 14, building circle track cars with my father saince I can remember, and let me tell you, powershifting a few times on a weekend down the strip is gonna be the least of your worries when your a drag racer. I do not think that some kid in a Civec cruising down the hwy should be powershifting. That would be just stuipid. Racing in general is not healthy for vehicals. It takes time, money, and skill. But not once have I ever lost a tranny because of powershifting. The hardest thing you can do to a drivetrain is launch high rpms with slicks. You tell me that powershifting will break your tranny? I say it'll cause more ware on your clutch, and tranny over time. Just as much damage as shifting hard and fast. I've broke more parts launching with slicks then any other thing raceing. (Cept throughing a rod or two on some old carburated motor circle track cars not dialed in the Air/Fuel.) But hey, if you don't wanna powershift, then don't. Oh well, wont hurt anyones feelings. After all, it's your money, your vehical, your time slip. But again, if you don't know what your talking about, keep your fingers off the key board, and learn a thing or two. And next time you think that powershifting is driving like a jackass, google it. powershifting takes skill to do properly, and serious racers that take advantage of everything to net the best time... well, what ever, do what you want.
06-21-2006 12:49 AM
Auto0utcast
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Originally posted by HalfTime
Some one you guys really are clueless on drag racing, and thier for should not make any comments to some one who has a question about drag racing unless you know what the your talking about.

Powershifting will save you tenths in the 1/4 mile, and by no means are you at risk of blowing your motor. Thier is a rev limiter, and it is thier for a reason. But if your stupid enough, and bounce of the limiter during a shift, the wrose thing that'll happen is 1) your gonna run some shitty times, 2) your gonna foul out your plugs. I don't care who you are, or how fast you shift, just because you can chirp the tires during a shift, does not mean that you are some sort of crazy fast shifter. A powershift is ment to keep your rpms up, and once the clutch re-egages, it "shocks" the drivetrain, like adding 20 more whp for a split second. The ONLY downside to powershifting is 1) takes practice to do it right, and 2) rips through clutches much faster then normal. That's why it;'s for racing, not for getting groceries.
you may not pop a motor but the internals of the mtx75 DO NOT like powershifting. i say this because ive blown the trans twice (yes its a standard). sheared the roll pin both times and the 2nd time i broke the welds on the birdcage for lack of a better term... the actual shift fingers that select gears i broke a weld... both times it happened on the 2-3 shift. you are correct it will chew up clutches, but think of this... that extra strain on the drivetrain goes somewhere... if and when the clutch grabs the internals of the transmission take that extra strain... are you willing to shell out nearly 2600$ for a rebuild every time u blow a tranny from driving like a jackass? im not in a big hurry to again.
06-21-2006 12:21 AM
HalfTime Some one you guys really are clueless on drag racing, and thier for should not make any comments to some one who has a question about drag racing unless you know what the your talking about.

Powershifting will save you tenths in the 1/4 mile, and by no means are you at risk of blowing your motor. Thier is a rev limiter, and it is thier for a reason. But if your stupid enough, and bounce of the limiter during a shift, the wrose thing that'll happen is 1) your gonna run some shitty times, 2) your gonna foul out your plugs. I don't care who you are, or how fast you shift, just because you can chirp the tires during a shift, does not mean that you are some sort of crazy fast shifter. A powershift is ment to keep your rpms up, and once the clutch re-egages, it "shocks" the drivetrain, like adding 20 more whp for a split second. The ONLY downside to powershifting is 1) takes practice to do it right, and 2) rips through clutches much faster then normal. That's why it;'s for racing, not for getting groceries.
06-20-2006 06:54 PM
chad_p71 you were running 15.5s easy with just that stuff?! What did you run before you adding that stuff?
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