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Today 04:29 PM
felixthecat I had a squeaky seat (upper back rest) I removed the seat covers & foam & find a few of the brackets that are welded to the frame, were coming undone & rewelded them & welded a few more places also. That was in early '12 & no issues since. Pretty cruddy that no dealer would help you, let alone the complaint dept. Glad you got your seat issue fixed.
Today 03:21 PM
dooor I ignored CT-ST's nonsense and hoped that this post would stop, but that hasn't happened.
I know or am related to seven dealer line techs., two worked at Ford dealerships, two dealership owner operators, one dealership accountant, one financier for customer purchases, two salesman, two parts dept. managers, and one sales manager. All work for or have worked for new car dealerships.
FOMOCO allows dealers extremely wide latitude when handling warranty and customer treatment matters. Case in point.
The upper part of my cars driver seat began to lean back unevenly. The dealer claimed that the seat was not covered under the extended warranty that I had purchased even though the warranty period had not expired. I forwarded my complaint to FOMOCO 's customer complaint dept. in Dearborn, Michigan. That dept. waited several months until the warranty had expired. Then they called me to inform me that they would not handle my complaint because the warranty had just expired.
I stripped the upholstery from the seat and found that the stamped steel frame had broken all around the top portion right next to the welds. A professional welder suggested that the welds were too large and hot. That caused the adjacent frame metal to become too brittle for it's intended service. The steel next to the welds was too brittle to flex when the seat was in use. This seat had a side air bag attached. If the air bag had deployed on the broken upper seat frame the driver's back could have easily been BROKEN.
I still have the broken seat frame.
The nearest Ford dealers are 38, 51, 52, 53, and 55 miles away.
$125.00 at a recycle yard secured a replacement seat.
Ford goes to market with product that they know will drive away a certain percent of buyers. Advertising is relied upon to bring in new customers. Ford advertises more that any other car mfg. in this country.
Today 12:39 PM
felixthecat
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The local dealer sells so many trucks that cars are a nuisance.
Every now & then I have a long crank, 2nd time it fires off. A 23 Ranger that I drive at work has the same problem on the 1st start of the day & I just leave the key into the start postion for 15 or so seconds & it fires off. Selling & servicing the different vehicles are 2 different things. If thats what you think, about your dealer, I'd be looking at another dealer.
12-22-2014 06:32 PM
dooor The local dealer sells so many trucks that cars are a nuisance.
12-22-2014 05:11 PM
CT-ST
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Let's face it. If you bought new, Ford got your money and doesn't care if you ever buy another Ford. My dealer here in Bakersfield, Ca. made that clear.
You have got to be joking.

"Sometimes my car starts slowly. FORD IS EVIL AND DOESN'T LOVE ME. MY CAR IS A TURD!!!"

12-01-2014 11:45 PM
dooor Let's face it. If you bought new, Ford got your money and doesn't care if you ever buy another Ford. My dealer here in Bakersfield, Ca. made that clear.
12-01-2014 05:59 PM
JEEPers
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Hey, reviving the thread here.

Wanted to see if anyone that had this issue had it solved? There is no verdict on the fix besides the ECU flash which is also debatable. Wanted to hear from some of you who may have an answer.


Replaced fuel filter and spark plugs, the problem continues.
Same here. wondering if a fix was available aside from a dealer visit for a flash to ECU.
11-18-2014 02:17 AM
malim Hey, reviving the thread here.

Wanted to see if anyone that had this issue had it solved? There is no verdict on the fix besides the ECU flash which is also debatable. Wanted to hear from some of you who may have an answer.


Replaced fuel filter and spark plugs, the problem continues.
07-10-2013 10:15 AM
dooor This long crank, hard start, run the fuel pump before trying to start problem is a b---h. Could fuel be flowing away from the injectors when the engine is off which would have the injectors passing only air for awhile? When replacing the fuel pump, a waste of time &$, no fuel pressure was in the system. A few miles later the fuel filter replacement again had no fuel pressure in the system when opened up. No fuel leaks to the atmosphere can be seen nor smelled. The fuel tank cap is new. Is there some kind of mechanism that keeps pressure in the fuel system when the engine is not running? I know that sounds stupid but the no pressure deal seems important to me. Thought, ideas, speculation and wild guesses are welcome. This one is -out of the box- strange.
03-12-2013 07:04 PM
choate Mine did this a few times when I first bought it and I read through this. If I get in the car now and turn on the ignition and wait until the chime stops dinging and then start, it's fine. Hasn't occured one time since then. Before, I'd just jump in the car and turn the ignition all the way all at once. 3 or 4 times it would either sputter and die just after starting or just never start and crank and crank until I let off after several seconds.

Moral of story/cure for me was just turn on ignition, find a good song on the radio, then turn car over. Never had a problem since. Good luck all
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