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03-17-2013 11:11 PM
USARice Rockauto doesn't have them? I reused mine. They didn't come apart.

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03-17-2013 09:01 PM
forddiesel1 Does anyone know a source to order connecting rod bolts?
03-15-2013 05:42 PM
forddiesel1 Update for anyone interested: The mains cannot be checked without pulling the engine. So I've ordered some rod bearings and we're going to go back together. BSD should be here soon. I'll be back on the road fairly quickly.
03-15-2013 12:29 PM
USARice Its in the way they are designed. But they can be "spun" that's what happened to me, one was spun 90 degrees.

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03-14-2013 10:58 PM
forddiesel1 Few more questions for you guys. The crank girdle on this engine is all one piece? Can it be removed and will the crank rest okay on the seals or do I need to hold it up somehow? Also, any one have information on the main bearing and connecting rod caps torque figures? I have been able to track down something for the connecting rod caps but nothing anywhere for the main bearing bolts?

Can any of these bolts be reused? Honestly? If not where can I buy new ones. The more I learn about these engines the more it appears that they weren't intended to be rebuilt, but I know people have done it before. Any help on torque figures or procedures would be excellent. So far it looks like 1 and 4 rod bearings were flaking, but not 2 and 3. The crank looks good thus far, but we won't know for sure until I can look at the mains. The bearings don't have any locks on them? How do they stop the bearings from spinning inside the rod caps?
03-11-2013 10:46 AM
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I've got a few local sources that will sell me parts at wholesale. I'm going to start calling around to local junkyards over the next few days just to price out an engine. If I could get an engine with 14k installed for $1400 I would go for it. That's a great price! I'm praying that I can alleviate the problem with some bearings, but if not I'm sure I'll find an engine for a decent price somewhere. Thanks again!
Make sure to pull the pan & remove the balance shafts. win win
03-10-2013 04:17 PM
forddiesel1 I've got a few local sources that will sell me parts at wholesale. I'm going to start calling around to local junkyards over the next few days just to price out an engine. If I could get an engine with 14k installed for $1400 I would go for it. That's a great price! I'm praying that I can alleviate the problem with some bearings, but if not I'm sure I'll find an engine for a decent price somewhere. Thanks again!
03-09-2013 09:02 PM
USARice I got my clevites from rockauto for cheap. I bought enough to do them all, if I can find the ones I didn't use I will send them to you for a few bucks if you want to pull the pan and try them. If the noise goes away temporarily at least you know that's it I guess. I actually lucked out on my engine.e because I found a guy a couple hours away with a Focus junkyard who put it in for 1400 including tranny, all the acessories, new wire harness (turns out the one on the replacement had something different for the a/c, apparently they changed harnesses mid year in 05, axles, and a rear wheel bearing while I spent the night with an old friend at a casino. He also has a plastic welder so he fixed my headlight housing while I was there. Sometimes you get lucky.

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03-09-2013 08:44 PM
forddiesel1
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Welcome to the club, my rod knock started at under 30k and got progressively worse. Ford claimed they couldn't hear it so I just had to deal with it. Never affected driveability. At about 50k I pulled the pan and found the #1 bearings were shot. The whole time I had metal flakes. I actually did replace the #1 bearings with Clevites and it went away for a very short time. And then came back, presumably because the crank journal was out of round. I have a thread on here somewhere that includes pictures of the bearings. As for the whole crank thing, everything I read suggested that the crank would be out of round too and would need to be replaced. I ended up replacing the whole engine with one with 14k. Oh, and I did the BSD at the same time I replaced the bearings since I had the pan off anyways and yes, it did come with increased vibrations. I don't remember where I found what the torque specs were for the rod ends but I did and the 26+90 seems familiar. Or at least the +90 does. Sorry not much help but I will dig through my favorites and see if I find the link.
Thanks for the help. I'm mentally preparing myself for an engine replacement or maybe a rebuild, but as I'm sure you found the 2.3 engines aren't exactly cheap or plentiful. It looks like at the least I'm looking at a grand for a pulled engine and probably close the same (850 or so) for a rebuild. I can do the labor myself over the summer. Best case scenario: $150 or so for bearings. Worse case scenario?? We'll see. Thanks in advance for any links or archives you can provide. I really appreciate the warm welcome thus far.
03-09-2013 06:37 PM
USARice Welcome to the club, my rod knock started at under 30k and got progressively worse. Ford claimed they couldn't hear it so I just had to deal with it. Never affected driveability. At about 50k I pulled the pan and found the #1 bearings were shot. The whole time I had metal flakes. I actually did replace the #1 bearings with Clevites and it went away for a very short time. And then came back, presumably because the crank journal was out of round. I have a thread on here somewhere that includes pictures of the bearings. As for the whole crank thing, everything I read suggested that the crank would be out of round too and would need to be replaced. I ended up replacing the whole engine with one with 14k. Oh, and I did the BSD at the same time I replaced the bearings since I had the pan off anyways and yes, it did come with increased vibrations. I don't remember where I found what the torque specs were for the rod ends but I did and the 26+90 seems familiar. Or at least the +90 does. Sorry not much help but I will dig through my favorites and see if I find the link.
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