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08-15-2014 01:37 PM
ansar Hmm, seems like I am having the same issues. I just bought a 2013 Focus SE from CarMax with 31k miles on it. I noticed the problems with moving from a stop and the grinding a couple of days after I got it. I called CarMax and I have an appointment to bring my car in to them in 2 weeks.

I believe I am covered all the way around as far as warranty goes. I am within the 30 days that CarMax fixes everything, I am within the factory warranty, and I bought and extended warranty from CarMax.

I will post what CarMax says.

Thanks for all of the great information on this site.
12-03-2013 10:24 AM
aptech77
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Originally Posted by Ysteven View Post
FYI Aptech77.
TSB 11-12-13
12/28/11
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK
FORD:
2012 Focus
ISSUE
Some 2012 Focus vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the transmission clutch housing.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Inspect the base of the transmission clutch housing for evidence of transmission fluid leak. Transmission fluid will be slick versus sticky.
a. If the fluid leak is sticky and honey colored, it may be mistaken for engine oil or transmission lubricant. This condition may be caused by excessive rust inhibitor applied to the flywheel during manufacturing. Wipe clean the rust inhibitor from the transmission housing with Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner or equivalent.
2. Is transmission fluid present at the base of the transmission clutch housing?
a. Yes - Proceed to Step 3.
b. No - This procedure does not apply. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 307-11 for normal diagnostics.
3. Replace both the inner input shaft seal, located between both input shafts and the hollow outer input shaft case seal. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01.
4. Verify clutch self-adjusters are locked on clutch assembly. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01.
5. Install a new Clutch Assembly Kit. Follow instructions provided in the kit.

Get familiar with our new design DCT.
Well smart guy, this was told to me by the dealership trans tech, as we stood looking at the inside of my ground up trans. So let me be more clear. ITS NOT TYPICAL ATF FLUID, its more like a " light weight gear oil" said the tech. Would you like to call and talk with him, the trained tech or go with what you THINK you know. This car DOESNT NOT USE traditional AFT. Period!
12-03-2013 09:50 AM
PratoN
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Originally Posted by dan50 View Post
As far as I know, the only way to see there's oil in the clutch housing is to remove the transmission from the engine (why wouldn't Ford build in an inspection port?).
I thought the same thing. Maybe they didn't know in the 2012 models. But not doing it on the 2013-2014 models when they were well aware of the possibility of this being an issue was just careless on their part.
12-03-2013 08:12 AM
Ysteven
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Originally Posted by dan50 View Post
Physically, both the transmission fluid and engine oil will look pretty much the same. Maybe dealers have a way of telling which is which.

The DCT does not have a dipstick - the car has to be raised while remaining level and the fill bolt removed. The fluid level should be even with the fill hole.

As far as I know, the only way to see there's oil in the clutch housing is to remove the transmission from the engine (why wouldn't Ford build in an inspection port?). And it seems idiotic not to replace the seals when the clutches are out, particularly when a leak is suspected.

Your best route is just to take it back to the dealer. If they prove difficult, appeal to one of th Ford moderators on this board and be ready to provide the last work order. Even Ford has standards on this stuff and I can't imagine they would condone not replacing seals.
Thanks for input Dan50. Yes I do think its idiotic not to replace the seals. Just test drove with manager, FINALLY he agrees that DCT little funny. They will try to apply latest 14-9-4 tsb. Then go from there, but Iam pretty sure it will not help. Since when software helps when hardware at 6oclock.:-)).
12-03-2013 07:46 AM
dan50
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Originally Posted by Ysteven View Post
I been told that it's either engine or trans seal blow up. So it could be engine oil or trans oil. I can't tell if it's pink or not. When I wiped it it's just grease. At my next oil change I found that spot wet again. Is there way to check it if we pull the starter out and go with snake camera? No dipstick to check trans fluid. My original dealer told me that they replaced ONLY Clutch assembly. NO SEALS BEEN TOUCHED. That's why I kind of upset with him.
Physically, both the transmission fluid and engine oil will look pretty much the same. Maybe dealers have a way of telling which is which.

The DCT does not have a dipstick - the car has to be raised while remaining level and the fill bolt removed. The fluid level should be even with the fill hole.

As far as I know, the only way to see there's oil in the clutch housing is to remove the transmission from the engine (why wouldn't Ford build in an inspection port?). And it seems idiotic not to replace the seals when the clutches are out, particularly when a leak is suspected.

Your best route is just to take it back to the dealer. If they prove difficult, appeal to one of th Ford moderators on this board and be ready to provide the last work order. Even Ford has standards on this stuff and I can't imagine they would condone not replacing seals.
12-02-2013 10:09 PM
Ysteven
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Originally Posted by aptech77 View Post
Fyi, this transmissions doesn't have "trans fluid". The trans is divided into two halfs. One side contains the dry clutch pack and the other contains the gears and shifting mechanisms with about 1-2 qts of a very light weight gear oil.
FYI Aptech77.
TSB 11-12-13
12/28/11
AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUID LEAK
FORD:
2012 Focus
ISSUE
Some 2012 Focus vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission may exhibit a transmission fluid leak from the transmission clutch housing.
ACTION
Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE
1. Inspect the base of the transmission clutch housing for evidence of transmission fluid leak. Transmission fluid will be slick versus sticky.
a. If the fluid leak is sticky and honey colored, it may be mistaken for engine oil or transmission lubricant. This condition may be caused by excessive rust inhibitor applied to the flywheel during manufacturing. Wipe clean the rust inhibitor from the transmission housing with Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner or equivalent.
2. Is transmission fluid present at the base of the transmission clutch housing?
a. Yes - Proceed to Step 3.
b. No - This procedure does not apply. Refer to Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 307-11 for normal diagnostics.
3. Replace both the inner input shaft seal, located between both input shafts and the hollow outer input shaft case seal. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01.
4. Verify clutch self-adjusters are locked on clutch assembly. Refer to WSM, Section 307-01.
5. Install a new Clutch Assembly Kit. Follow instructions provided in the kit.

Get familiar with our new design DCT.
12-02-2013 10:04 PM
Ysteven
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Originally Posted by Etch. View Post
And the crappy thing is, transmission seal aside....is MOST cars develop leaky rear main seal with age. It's harmless in normal cars as it doesn't affect anything and is pretty much just cosmetic, having a wet spot on the drive train and maybe an occasional drip on the garage floor. If the clutches are that sensitive to those type leaks, that doesn't bode well for them in the future. These cars are only up to a few years old, regardless of miles put on em. Not old enough to have that rear main seeping just yet. We'll see what happens when they are old enough to develop that sort of stuff.

Agree, I rebuild dads 03 Focus trans last year under my carport. 10 years later all seals are tight. I know I have dry clutch trans, but still in 10 years all seals are good. On my 12focus went to dealer 6month after the purchase, now iam dealing with my "BLENDER" for over 2years.. Sadly to say. At 10600 clutch replaced, failed 600 miles later again. Now iam at 30000.
12-02-2013 09:57 PM
Ysteven
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Originally Posted by dan50 View Post
Yes, we get that. But Ford refers to this lubricant as "Motorcraft Dual Clutch Tranmssion Fluid". So the "transmission fluid" term seems pretty accurate. But it probably isn't pink.
I been told that it's either engine or trans seal blow up. So it could be engine oil or trans oil. I can't tell if it's pink or not. When I wiped it it's just grease. At my next oil change I found that spot wet again. Is there way to check it if we pull the starter out and go with snake camera? No dipstick to check trans fluid. My original dealer told me that they replaced ONLY Clutch assembly. NO SEALS BEEN TOUCHED. That's why I kind of upset with him.
12-02-2013 07:15 PM
dan50
Quote:
Originally Posted by aptech77 View Post
Fyi, this transmissions doesn't have "trans fluid". The trans is divided into two halfs. One side contains the dry clutch pack and the other contains the gears and shifting mechanisms with about 1-2 qts of a very light weight gear oil.
Yes, we get that. But Ford refers to this lubricant as "Motorcraft Dual Clutch Tranmssion Fluid". So the "transmission fluid" term seems pretty accurate. But it probably isn't pink.
12-02-2013 02:17 PM
SUPERLOOP
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Originally Posted by Ysteven View Post
Sorry pics are upside down?
Could be either-or. Mine was leaking out the rear corner of the oil pan. You couldn't tell until you moved the transmission back a bit. My transmission seal was dry, but still has the shudder problem.
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