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02-06-2013 03:20 PM
raptor1956
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Originally Posted by InfinityCubed View Post
Fun tip; If you hold the up-shift button on the lever as you shift it into sport mode, it stays in 6th gear.

Yep, I do that all the time...


Brian
02-06-2013 01:55 PM
InfinityCubed
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Originally Posted by raptor1956 View Post
The DCT, when operating under the control of the computer, is operated as an auto so it tends to shift more than needed. When I'm cruising in hilly areas I put it into "S" mode then manually put it in 6th and the car will stay in 6th until the speed drops by about 10mph from setpoint or below about 35mph. If it's steep enough that the speed begins to drop more than a couple I manually drop it into 5th. I've driven this way even on mountainous roads and in those cases may have to drop it down to 4th or even 3rd if it's really steep...


Brian
Fun tip; If you hold the up-shift button on the lever as you shift it into sport mode, it stays in 6th gear.
02-06-2013 01:08 PM
raptor1956
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Originally Posted by Monkeygrits View Post
Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Driving in the mountains of PA, WV I was not impressed by the DCT. 5th gear goes anywhere here on the freeway holding it's speed with the cruise set while the DCT searched for a new gear on the hills. I did t think the DCT felt refined at all. Shifts are slushy and obviously geared for fuel economy. I think the 5 speed is better geared for the power and torque this car has. And you have to agree those little buttons on the shifter of the DCT are a joke.

The DCT, when operating under the control of the computer, is operated as an auto so it tends to shift more than needed. When I'm cruising in hilly areas I put it into "S" mode then manually put it in 6th and the car will stay in 6th until the speed drops by about 10mph from setpoint or below about 35mph. If it's steep enough that the speed begins to drop more than a couple I manually drop it into 5th. I've driven this way even on mountainous roads and in those cases may have to drop it down to 4th or even 3rd if it's really steep...


Brian
02-06-2013 12:54 PM
suss6052
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Originally Posted by RonMaiden View Post
The extra 100lb weight disadvantage isn't helping.

Herer's a review of the SE Sport with the 5 speed and they do make some comparisons to the DCT.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ck-test-review
There is only about 12 lbs difference between the dct and the 5 mt cars at the base curb weight from the spec sheets. If the one car weighed 100 lbs more then the heavier car has about 88 lbs more equipment on it.
02-06-2013 12:42 PM
RonMaiden The extra 100lb weight disadvantage isn't helping.

Herer's a review of the SE Sport with the 5 speed and they do make some comparisons to the DCT.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ck-test-review
02-06-2013 12:24 PM
Kabigon
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Originally Posted by RonMaiden View Post
The power runs I've seen in a few car rags had the manual running 15.8-16 flat in the 1/4 and the few numbers I've seen run with the DCT have been no better than a 16.3.
For 1/4 mile runs, the manual may have an advantage in that it is easier to control the launch.

Again, where exactly is the power loss in the DCT relative to the 5 speed?

If the DCT is "slower", why would that be so?
02-06-2013 09:02 AM
spiderpig Are you guys able to shift better with the powershift in manual mode? I haven't really used it yet.
02-06-2013 08:46 AM
RonMaiden The power runs I've seen in a few car rags had the manual running 15.8-16 flat in the 1/4 and the few numbers I've seen run with the DCT have been no better than a 16.3. I test drove 3 DCTs before I bought my 5 spd and none of them really responded well to WOT acceleration.
02-06-2013 12:33 AM
Monkeygrits Guess we will have to agree to disagree. Driving in the mountains of PA, WV I was not impressed by the DCT. 5th gear goes anywhere here on the freeway holding it's speed with the cruise set while the DCT searched for a new gear on the hills. I did t think the DCT felt refined at all. Shifts are slushy and obviously geared for fuel economy. I think the 5 speed is better geared for the power and torque this car has. And you have to agree those little buttons on the shifter of the DCT are a joke.
02-06-2013 12:18 AM
suss6052
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Originally Posted by Monkeygrits View Post
Obviously you haven't driven the MTX. I drove both when I bought mine and the DCT is a dog in comparison. The manual makes these cars soooo much more fun to drive. Plus the MTX-75 has been used for a while by Ford and is a solid piece. There's no comparison IMO
I've driven both, and the DCT had the edge on refinement and with the 6th gear ratio the edge on bringing the engine speed down on the freeway. Instead of 70 mph at 3000 rpm, its down to 2600 rpm or so.

The manual was nice, but unfortunately it only has 5 gear ratios and its top gear closely matched that of my last car from 1994 which meant that because it weighed over 500 lbs more it wasn't going to feel faster even with an extra 55 horse power, and the added weight was going to hurt in town fuel economy compared to the old car.

If they had put a 6 speed with a taller overdrive ratio like the DCT, or the Cruze Eco's 0.62:1 6th gear for highway cruising.

I don't mind rowing through the gears, but they also wouldn't put the manual in a car equipped the way I wanted it in 2012 so there was that also.
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